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chocoloco on 12 March 2014
NiKKoM said:
Let me say it: GDDR5 shortage > high price > Sony not willing to pay > less PS4s manufactored

Yes i have been drinking tonight

Americans have poor taste in xone.

I too have had some drinks tonight. Apple is the worst.



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Lawlight on 12 March 2014
Xevross said:
JoeTheBro said:

If PS4's not undertracked then Sony have some terrible production going on...

Also I'm super shocked its down from last week in America, with the big amazon shipment.

The big shipment happened a few days ago. And PS4 still sold out on Amazon



JoeTheBro on 12 March 2014
vivster said:
JoeTheBro said:
Mummelmann said:
Okey, these PS4 drops can't possibly be just due to stock issues, it's unlikely they have such a low production capacity and we know that there wasn't a huge amount of stock allocated to Japan for the second and third week.
I wonder if certain users are still imagining 20 million by year end and 250k average weekly sales through Q2 and Q3. Even if there are widespread stock issues, it's incredibly unrealistic to imagine doubling last week's numbers and staying there through the mid-year lull.

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Yes I'm still confident it can do 20 mil by the end of the year.

Confident enough for a bet?

Depends on the terms. I'm not saying 20 minimum, so that'd be messed up if I lost even if the PS4 sold 19 million.

Let's say I win if the PS4 is at at least 18 million LTD at the end of the year. You win if it ends below 18 million.

Also since my side of the bet seems to be the riskier one, I think I should get a better reward if I'm right. You win and you get a month of my sig control. I win, and I get three months control of your sig.

Deal?



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Farsala on 12 March 2014

Ok wtf is up with the numbers, seriously when will it be for sure in stock full demand PS4...



JoeTheBro on 12 March 2014
Mummelmann said:
JoeTheBro said:
Mummelmann said:
Okey, these PS4 drops can't possibly be just due to stock issues, it's unlikely they have such a low production capacity and we know that there wasn't a huge amount of stock allocated to Japan for the second and third week.
I wonder if certain users are still imagining 20 million by year end and 250k average weekly sales through Q2 and Q3. Even if there are widespread stock issues, it's incredibly unrealistic to imagine doubling last week's numbers and staying there through the mid-year lull.

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Yes I'm still confident it can do 20 mil by the end of the year.


How will it happen though, what will drive the sales? The summer will be tough, I can't imagine that it will be able to keep up with the Wii's first year in Q2 and Q3, it's already gaining fast and that only leaves one possibility; an insane Q4, to the amount of up to 10 million, that's a 770k weekly average through all of Q4. I'm basing this on roughly 10 million lifetime by the end of August, even if it somehow managed 12 million by the end of August, that still leaves 8 million for Q4, 900k more than the Wii.

I just don't understand the reasoning behind the 20 million figure at all, especially with possibility of a comeback by the One is North America and Japan being more or less irrelevant for home consoles this gen. I think people have somehow got it in their head that; "Well, one console has to sell amazingly, especially if two of the others aren't doing fantastic numbers." But I think that this is a highly simplified and assumptive way of thinking (look at the 3DS, it's not set to break any records despite pathetic competition on the dedicated handheld market), by all appearances; the entire console market is currently trending rather heavily downwards and people are going way overboard with the PS4 sales predictions.

The PS4 is still heavily supply constrained and I have a hard time believing these US numbers. Even if they are right, demand is exceeding supply. We can use today's sales to predict tomorrow's shipments, but that's about it. We just don't know what's up with PS4.

Also I haven't noticed anyone thinking "Well, one console has to sell amazingly, especially if two of the others aren't doing fantastic numbers." I think it's more along the lines of "the PS4 has had the best launch out of any console ever and is still breaking sales records. I think it's going to keep selling amazingly."



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vivster on 12 March 2014
JoeTheBro said:
vivster said:
JoeTheBro said:
Mummelmann said:
Okey, these PS4 drops can't possibly be just due to stock issues, it's unlikely they have such a low production capacity and we know that there wasn't a huge amount of stock allocated to Japan for the second and third week.
I wonder if certain users are still imagining 20 million by year end and 250k average weekly sales through Q2 and Q3. Even if there are widespread stock issues, it's incredibly unrealistic to imagine doubling last week's numbers and staying there through the mid-year lull.

...

Yes I'm still confident it can do 20 mil by the end of the year.

Confident enough for a bet?

Depends on the terms. I'm not saying 20 minimum, so that'd be messed up if I lost even if the PS4 sold 19 million.

Let's say I win if the PS4 is at at least 18 million LTD at the end of the year. You win if it ends below 18 million.

Also since my side of the bet seems to be the riskier one, I think I should get a better reward if I'm right. You win and you get a month of my sig control. I win, and I get three months control of your sig.

Deal?

You shouldn't make a bet if it's that risky for you ;)

I'd say deal but I'm thinking of another reward right now for me. I'm just not creative enough to do anything to other people's sigs. Are there other rewards people do on here that don't revolve around sigs or avatars?



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JoeTheBro on 12 March 2014
vivster said:
JoeTheBro said:

Depends on the terms. I'm not saying 20 minimum, so that'd be messed up if I lost even if the PS4 sold 19 million.

Let's say I win if the PS4 is at at least 18 million LTD at the end of the year. You win if it ends below 18 million.

Also since my side of the bet seems to be the riskier one, I think I should get a better reward if I'm right. You win and you get a month of my sig control. I win, and I get three months control of your sig.

Deal?

You shouldn't make a bet if it's that risky for you ;)

I'd say deal but I'm thinking of another reward right now for me. I'm just not creative enough to do anything to other people's sigs. Are there other rewards people do on here that don't revolve around sigs or avatars?

No, that's just gambling 101. The riskier the bet, the larger the reward.

There really aren't that many betting options.



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kitler53 on 12 March 2014
vivster said:
JoeTheBro said:
vivster said:
JoeTheBro said:
Mummelmann said:
Okey, these PS4 drops can't possibly be just due to stock issues, it's unlikely they have such a low production capacity and we know that there wasn't a huge amount of stock allocated to Japan for the second and third week.
I wonder if certain users are still imagining 20 million by year end and 250k average weekly sales through Q2 and Q3. Even if there are widespread stock issues, it's incredibly unrealistic to imagine doubling last week's numbers and staying there through the mid-year lull.

...

Yes I'm still confident it can do 20 mil by the end of the year.

Confident enough for a bet?

Depends on the terms. I'm not saying 20 minimum, so that'd be messed up if I lost even if the PS4 sold 19 million.

Let's say I win if the PS4 is at at least 18 million LTD at the end of the year. You win if it ends below 18 million.

Also since my side of the bet seems to be the riskier one, I think I should get a better reward if I'm right. You win and you get a month of my sig control. I win, and I get three months control of your sig.

Deal?

You shouldn't make a bet if it's that risky for you ;)

I'd say deal but I'm thinking of another reward right now for me. I'm just not creative enough to do anything to other people's sigs. Are there other rewards people do on here that don't revolve around sigs or avatars?


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sborwege on 12 March 2014

my 2 cents, my employer got in 7 PS4's late Thursday(3/6/14), we sold 1 thursday, and 3 on sunday(I guess it took 2 days for word to get out we had them)..... then when I came back to work on Tuesday we still had 4. We didn't sell one in over 48 hours. Honestly think the hype is done....






 

arcane_chaos on 12 March 2014
sborwege said:
my 2 cents, my employer got in 7 PS4's late Thursday(3/6/14), we sold 1 thursday, and 3 on sunday(I guess it took 2 days for word to get out we had them)..... then when I came back to work on Tuesday we still had 4. We didn't sell one in over 48 hours. Honestly think the hype is done....


Well at my local gamestops both got a shipment of about 7-9  PS4's and they were gone within hours and last i checked the nearby Target is also out of stock, so the demand is still there(atleast where I live)