kowenicki said:
NewGuy said:
kowenicki said:
NewGuy said:
kowenicki said: We may see negative shipments for the 360 according to VGC in the next Microsoft financials. The 360 shipped 2.9m for the quarter ending Dec 2013 for a total of 82.9m lifetime. Pretty much all of them are still available apparently. 2.6m are still in supply according to VGC numbers.
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I believe both the PS3 and 360 are undertracked here. I have a sneaking suspicion on the PSP as well, but not as sure on that.
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PSP I doubt. Shipments have been horrible.
PS3 is undertracked by quite a bit 1.9m supply end of Dec. 360 is massively undertracked, 2.9m supply, end of Dec.
PS3 and 360 are essentially tied in shipments, with the 360 slightly ahead as of Dec 2013. By March 2014, PS3 should officialy take the lead.
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I do not think you can say with confidence that the 360 is slightly ahead as of Dec 2013.
This is what we know:
360 - 82.9M shipped as of Dec 31st 2013 (numbers from MS)
PS3 - 80M shipped as of Nov 2nd, 2013 (PR statement from Sony)
PS3 + PS4 shipment for 2013 Q3 = 7.8M
PS4 selltrhough as of Dec 28, 2013 = 4.2M (basically sold out)
PS3 shipments Q3 = 7.8M - PS4 shipments for quarter = ~3.6M
It basically really depends on when the extra PS3 numbers were shipped in order for us to know whether or not the PS3 or 360 is ahead as of Dec 31st. However, we can't conclusively say that one is ahead of the other based on what we do know. Sorry about this, I'm a bit anal when it comes to this kind of stuff.
Regarding the PSP, that's why I said I have a suspicion, but couldn't say for sure because it involves a lot of assumptions on my part. Basically I feel shipment is probably over 81M and I do not believe there's a lot of PSPs out in retailer stores at this point. Like I said, lots of assumptions, I might be completely wrong, but it's just the feeling I have.
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YOU are anal? I dont think you know me very well do you...
I think this is very very accurate: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=129135
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=129135
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Heh it's good to be accurate :)
Good charts, but you're also including assumptions there. You cannot know for sure the number shipped from Nov 2nd to Dec 31st for the PS3. Semantics, I know. It's Sony's fault for being so coy with their numbers, I know. Mind you, I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, I am just saying you cannot assertively say that the 360 is ahead of the PS3 in terms of units shipped as of December 31st 2013. You can make an educated guess, as you have made, and that's perfectly fine and quite possibly correct, but you just cannot assert with certainty that that's the case.
BTW, the 80M PS3 figure is as of Nov 2nd, not Nov 6th. The PR came out on the 6th, but the number is as of Nov 2nd as stated in the document.
Good charts though, thanks for that.