Forums - Sales Discussion - I Believe Xbox One Needs A Mininum $150 Pricecut To Be Competitive Again (I Eat That Crow)

spurgeonryan said:
Initial price point misshaps are hard to come back from. We have seen this with 3DS, Wii U, and even PS3 I believe.

It will take games to do the trick, not pricing.


The 3DS and PS3 pricecuts were both accompanied with significant software.

3DS had the cut in the Summer which was followed by Ocarina 3D and a Holiday hit of Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7.

PS3 had a pricecut and slim combo to go along with Uncharted 2, Modern Warfare 2, FFXIII in Japan, Assassin's Creed 2 and Batman Arkham Asylum.

Games can only do so much for a platform that is overpriced.



                            

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Just to share a case for you guys...

I waited to buy my PS3 until it reaches $299 and the PS4 I got at day one... what that means? Price matter... even more than games... even to fanboys like me.

If the PS4 was $599 like PS3 then I shouldn't have one today.



ethomaz said:
Just to share a case for you guys...

I waited to buy my PS3 until it reaches $299 and the PS4 I got at day one... what that means? Price matter... even more than games... even to fanboys like me.

If the PS4 was $599 like PS3 then I shouldn't have one today.

Price does matter but waiting for console prices to drop is not very smart in my opinion. To save 300$ you waited nearly 3 years. So you saved less than 10$ a month to not be in on the latest. No way in heck I would wait over such a tiny amount of money.



rolltide101x said:

Price does matter but waiting for console prices to drop is not very smart in my opinion. To save 300$ you waited nearly 3 years. So you saved less than 10$ a month to not be in on the latest. No way in heck I would wait over such a tiny amount of money.

I didn't have the money to pay $600... it seems like twice the price and it is in US... the difference to import a console of $300 to $600 in Brazil is mounstruos... the tax over $600 is something unbelievable.

If we are crying with the $399 = R$4000 conversion here with PS4... a $600 machine could costs over R$8000 easily.

It dropped the price but I just could buy one with the Slim launch.



ethomaz said:

rolltide101x said:

Price does matter but waiting for console prices to drop is not very smart in my opinion. To save 300$ you waited nearly 3 years. So you saved less than 10$ a month to not be in on the latest. No way in heck I would wait over such a tiny amount of money.

I didn't have the money to pay $600... it seems like twice the price and it is in US... the difference to import a console of $300 to $600 in Brazil is mounstruos... the tax over $600 is something unbelievable.

If we are crying with the $399 = R$4000 conversion here with PS4... a $600 machine could costs over R$8000 easily.

It dropped the price but I just could buy one with the Slim launch.

Ah, did not know you were from Brazil. I can not say I blame you, I would have bought a gaming PC to hold me off for a while lol. Aren't Xbox products cheaper in Brazil due to the taxes?



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rolltide101x said:

Ah, did not know you were from Brazil. I can not say I blame you, I would have bought a gaming PC to hold me off for a while lol. Aren't Xbox products cheaper in Brazil due to the taxes?

Yeap... Xbone is mounted here so the official price is R$2200 but the retail is selling it from R$1800-$2000... it is close to half the price of PS4.

I don't remember when they changed the law to the PC components tax be lower than 25%... that make the PC somekind "cheaper" (I don't know if I can call it cheaper because it is expensive to a lot of people yet) but before that it was taxed like consoles today in over 60%.

My last PC was a Pentium III to play Diablo, WarCraft and StartCraft (I had a GeForce 256)... I only worked with better gaming machines for benchmark jobs but it was not mine and I needed to make tests with especific games... after that I moved to notebooks and you know the notebooks are crap to gaming.



ethomaz said:

rolltide101x said:

Ah, did not know you were from Brazil. I can not say I blame you, I would have bought a gaming PC to hold me off for a while lol. Aren't Xbox products cheaper in Brazil due to the taxes?

Yeap... Xbone is mounted here so the official price is R$2200 but the retail is selling it from R$1800-$2000... it is close to half the price of PS4.

I don't remember when they changed the law to the PC components tax be lower than 25%... that make the PC somekind "cheaper" (I don't know if I can call it cheaper because it is expensive to a lot of people yet) but before that it was taxed like consoles today in over 60%.

My last PC was a Pentium III to play Diablo, WarCraft and StartCraft (I had a GeForce 256)... I only worked with better gaming machines for benchmark jobs but it was not mine and I needed to make tests with especific games... after that I moved to notebooks and you know the notebooks are crap to gaming.

How are games priced? Just curious

How about Physical VS Digital?

 

For half off I would probably go with the Xbox One to be honest. lol.



rolltide101x said:

How are games priced? Just curious

For half off I would probably go with the Xbox One to be honest. lol.

Full launch prices.

PC Games: R$99 (it was over R$200 years ago)
Console Games: R$169 (it was over R$250 years ago)

Edit - Digital has the same price at PS Store Brazil... I have a PS Store US so I pay less because you pay only one the tax (IOF) with international credit card.



ethomaz said:

rolltide101x said:

How are games priced? Just curious

For half off I would probably go with the Xbox One to be honest. lol.

Full launch prices.

PC Games: R$99 (it was over R$200 years ago)
Console Games: R$169 (it was over R$250 years ago)

Edit - Digital has the same price at PS Store Brazil... I have a PS Store US so I pay less because you pay only one the tax (IOF) with international credit card.

That is smart lol. Thanks.



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