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What is his end state

Annex Ukraine As a whole 337 40.60%
 
Annex Crimea 286 34.46%
 
Defend Russian People Fro... 184 22.17%
 
Total:807

Putin is not doing much wrong even admitted by the Western World the problem is that he is very close with doing something wrong.

The majority of the East Ukrain population is afraid what happened and saw how citizens were beaten up because they were from Russian heritage.... Ofcourse those citizens will raise the Russian flag and they all look happy with the invasion of Russia.

Their is no theater if the people are happy in the Cromea (or how you spell it in English) with Russia troops then what is the big problem? If Russia goes to the West and take over the country then their is a problem but that would be amazing if they can take over the country with a 2.000 men strong army.



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X1Gates said:
platformmaster918 said:
X1Gates said:
Doing what the Power puff girls (Britain, france, USA and Israel) have been doing for quite some time, looking after national interest. Funny how the US talks about international laws when it suits them and the rest of the time the power puff girls ignore any rule and even make up stuff (Iraq chemical weapons) to destroy and loot countries. The crimea belongs to Russia and the power puff girls need to mind their own business.

yes because the Iraq war has been soooo profitable for the US.  Also I don't remember it helping our govt's popularity (we voted out Republicans in large part because we grew tired of the Iraq war)

You accomplished what you set out to do and that is divide the country into three regions which pose no threat to american and israeli interest in the middle east. Lastly, it was a profitable campaign but the profits are for the bankers, haliburton (who has contracts to rebuild), oil sector and big business. It was because of the dumbed down american public that the war took place, they mixed the 9/11 attack with Sadam being related to it and you sheep ate that up like doritos chips. The biggest danger to the world is not the USA, the biggest danger to th world is the uninformed, uneducated, backward, obese, war mongering and nationalistic US population.

The biggest danger to the world is uneducated, know-nothing conspiracy nuts who are too stupid to realize how stupid they really are



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The Fury said:

Politics in the Gaming board?

Eitherway, I've supported Crimea Independence before this crisis but not by force, democratic referendum. They identified as Russian more not Ukrainian, it's just when the USSR broke up, Crimea became part of Ukraine because at the time it was part of Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.

But then Crimea isn't Russian depending on how far you go back, Crimean Tatars are it's natives are they not? So it's theirs.

That's seemingly what they are going for, the Crimea plans a refenderum about it's future. it could end up independent or the majority of the people want it back to Russia, it is seemingly unlikely a majority want it t be part of the ukraine.



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platformmaster918 said:
X1Gates said:
Doing what the Power puff girls (Britain, france, USA and Israel) have been doing for quite some time, looking after national interest. Funny how the US talks about international laws when it suits them and the rest of the time the power puff girls ignore any rule and even make up stuff (Iraq chemical weapons) to destroy and loot countries. The crimea belongs to Russia and the power puff girls need to mind their own business.

yes because the Iraq war has been soooo profitable for the US.  Also I don't remember it helping our govt's popularity (we voted out Republicans in large part because we grew tired of the Iraq war)

So what ? If you cant make a solid profit and changes the guy in charge there is a magical reboot that makes everyone forget about US responsability, lies, and wars outside UN approval for national interest ? So, the new guy in charge of the very same country, people and army explains how important are international laws and thanks to the magical reboot (yeah, everybody forgot the previous little "mistake"), X1Gates point that every powerfull country is doing the same sh*t for years become irrevelant ?



JEMC said:
Oliver4p1 said:

I am with Putin and anti NWO NATO and im from UK

They have more right to defend russian citizens from a far right kiev government than USA and EU have to remove Syrias legitimate leader.

If the temporary government of Ukraina is "far right", something that I don't agree with, then could you please tell me what is the Russian government with Putin?

The more important thing is, that the current government of the ukraine isn't democratic. The ukraine needs free elections, but at the current situation with militarized nazi-groups patroulling western ukraine and militarized pro-russia groups are more and more active in east ukraine and russian troops in crimea a free election is highly unlikely.



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Anyone gotten the news already? The russian fleet have told the Ukrainian army that they have until 4 a clock night to tuesday to surrender, or they'll "rush" them.

Not a top notch translation, as I had to put it together quickly. You get the picture though. http://direkte.vg.no/studio/krisen-p-krim-halvya