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What is his end state

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Mnementh said:
Nem said:
If that is true, then im not surprised.

I'm not surprised you're not surprised.

But you are probably surprised if things show the bad side of western propaganda. By the way, what do you think about this: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6142412


I see someone waving at a croud. Was i supposed to be seeing a nazi salute? I cant even tell if its the same guy on both pictures. The quality and angles are pretty bad.



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Mnementh said:

Seems crimean people have not the option to choose to stay in the Ukraine:

They have, second option -- back to constitution of 1992.



Nem said:
Mnementh said:
Nem said:
If that is true, then im not surprised.

I'm not surprised you're not surprised.

But you are probably surprised if things show the bad side of western propaganda. By the way, what do you think about this: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6142412


I see someone waving at a croud. Was i supposed to be seeing a nazi salute? I cant even tell if its the same guy on both pictures. The quality and angles are pretty bad.

It is the same guy. Yatsenyuk doesn't need to be exposed as Nazi, I doubt he have any kind of beliefes, but he's siding with Nazis, yes.



Nem said:
Mnementh said:
Nem said:
If that is true, then im not surprised.

I'm not surprised you're not surprised.

But you are probably surprised if things show the bad side of western propaganda. By the way, what do you think about this: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6142412


I see someone waving at a croud. Was i supposed to be seeing a nazi salute? I cant even tell if its the same guy on both pictures. The quality and angles are pretty bad.

Why I'm not surprised. You didn't even question the photograph of the options for the referendum, but here you are doubtful. You don't even comment on the forgery of voting in the parliament, in my opinion the worse thing. You completely fell to the propaganda of one side and you're unable to try to get your own opinion. That's pretty sad. If that is true for most of people (and it seems so), politics can get away with everything. That's the reason Putin can get away with most he does and his popularity is increasing in his own country in the face of the current events.



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mai said:
Nem said:
Mnementh said:
Nem said:
If that is true, then im not surprised.

I'm not surprised you're not surprised.

But you are probably surprised if things show the bad side of western propaganda. By the way, what do you think about this: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6142412


I see someone waving at a croud. Was i supposed to be seeing a nazi salute? I cant even tell if its the same guy on both pictures. The quality and angles are pretty bad.

It is the same guy. Yatsenyuk doesn't need to be exposed as Nazi, I doubt he have any kind of beliefes, but he's siding with Nazis, yes.

I agree, he probably didn't even think much about that. At his side this is Tyahnybok waving a flag, if I see that right. Thats the main point here.The new Ukrainian government has no problems to side with Nazis.



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mai said:
Mnementh said:

Seems crimean people have not the option to choose to stay in the Ukraine:

They have, second option -- back to constitution of 1992.

Isn't that constitutiopn giving independence to crimea?



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"We have hacked e-mail correspondence of US Army Attache Assistant in Kiev Jason Gresh and a high ranking official from Ukrainian General Staff Igor Protsyk.
 It appears that they are planning to conduct a series of attacks on Ukrainian military bases in order to destabilize the situation in Ukraine.
 Particularly, Jason Gresh writes to Igor Protsyk that it’s time to implement a plan that implies “causing problems to the transport hubs in the south-east of Ukraine in order to frame-up the neighbor. It will create favorable conditions for Pentagon to act”, says Jason Gresh.
 In his turn, Protsyk writes to some Vasil and tells him to arrange an attack on an airbase of 25 aviation brigade of Ukrainian air force stationed in Melitopol.
 This Vasil is responsible for arranging the details of the attack, gathering of the gunmen and providing them with a map of sites that are chosen to be attacked.
We strongly recommend everyone to look through these documents. There you will find all the details."
http://www.mediafire.com/download/fso0k2ry5yzhr8a/protsyk.7z
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Mnementh said:
Nem said:
Mnementh said:
Nem said:
If that is true, then im not surprised.

I'm not surprised you're not surprised.

But you are probably surprised if things show the bad side of western propaganda. By the way, what do you think about this: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6142412


I see someone waving at a croud. Was i supposed to be seeing a nazi salute? I cant even tell if its the same guy on both pictures. The quality and angles are pretty bad.

Why I'm not surprised. You didn't even question the photograph of the options for the referendum, but here you are doubtful. You don't even comment on the forgery of voting in the parliament, in my opinion the worse thing. You completely fell to the propaganda of one side and you're unable to try to get your own opinion. That's pretty sad. If that is true for most of people (and it seems so), politics can get away with everything. That's the reason Putin can get away with most he does and his popularity is increasing in his own country in the face of the current events.

Lol what? I said IF what you were saying is true  about the document.I cant read it. And how the hell was i supposed to know he was cheating on votes on the photograph ? I have no idea what the man is doing. I duno how the voting mechanism works. I dont work at a parliament to know wich button does what. And how do we know he isnt just covering for a collegue? Again, its you saying it.

Whats sad is that you are saying i said things i didnt and accusing me of something i didnt do. Im falling for nothing. I am questioning the veracity of everything i cant verify. So, get out of that high horse before you hurt yourself even more.



Mnementh said:
mai said:
Mnementh said:

Seems crimean people have not the option to choose to stay in the Ukraine:

They have, second option -- back to constitution of 1992.

Isn't that constitutiopn giving independence to crimea?

It gives wider autonomy in the state of Ukraine.