What? PS4 is outpacing PS3 by a huge margin if PS3 managed to reach 80M there's no way PS4 the record breaking console and current market leader can't pass 70M. We are practically March and the console is still sold out.

"As far as console excitement goes, I would call it luke warm at best", I hope your post is sarcasm.

Nope, I think last generation there was still a lot of excitement in the gaming world, but I just don't see it this generation.  Developers are dropping left and right and there's nothing amazing which is pulling in the casual gamers like the Wii did last generation.  I don't think any of the consoles will be performing that great this time.  

PS2 sold as great as it did because it had tonnes of games and a dvd player, and it came out early.  The DVD player caught the casual gamers as well as the huge variety of games.  I remember my classroom was buzzing in high school when Katamari Damacy was out.  Now what do we have, FPS games and Sports Games and Open World games.  

Wii sold as well as it did because of the motion controls.  People just had to try it.  It was fun as hell if you had a party going.  That's how that console spread so far in the casual market.  Word of mouth

PS4....  It has graphics and a really thin circle of games.  Don't bring up the indie market though.  Casual players have no clue how to even access the online shop.  Just getting them to turn on the system is an achievement in most cases.  I still have to show my family how the laser button works on the PS3, or that theres a power switch on the back, or how to delete old saves.  

No all he said is that it currently would be lucky to reach Gamecube sales, he never specified if thats the defining line between doomed and saved. If that Is what he meant, does that mean if Wii U sells 21.73m or less it wasnt saved but if it sells 21.75m or more its saved? How much higher does it need to sell over Gamecube to be considered saved? 25m? 30m? 40m?

The OP hasnt truly defined what his definition of saved is and until he actually does nobody can give a legitimate answer.

The Op asked if the console is "doomed to GC sales" pretty sure he is implying at least for him that those are doom numbers. I think its a fair question. Now it is not known what he would consider it to be saved. That is a good inquiry. IMHO i think it getting close to N64 numbers is being saved, but thats just me, but frankly its still below GC so i dont think thats going down.

Why are you ignoring hard cold facts? PS4 is breaking every record out there with "no games" yet you are saying it needs the casual market to pass 70M, PS4 is getting huge third party support and it became the "cool" console to have thanks to MS fuck ups that should be enough. PS3 reached 80M and it wasn't aimed at the casual audience. I'm talking only PS4 here.

You think this is hot?  Do you know how long the Wii would last on store shelves when the store opened?  It didn't last at all, it vanished the moment the stores opened.  The only thing that held it back was the production limits.  Something the PS4 obviously took better care to prepare.  Every winning console in history has sold out of launch consoles, it's only a matter of how many they produce.  If they weren't selling out right now,  someone would be making a thread stating how doomed the console is....  

Understand now?  The fact that it lasts at all this early is a bad sign.  This is super-hardcore territory, the point where people should be sleeping outside of stores just to grab a copy.