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mornelithe on 08 February 2014

I wouldn't call it desperation, I'd definitely call it a publicity stunt though. I doubt very many people are going to be going out of there way to track down the nearest Microsoft store in there area.



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OttoniBastos on 08 February 2014

When we will see the WW HW from 1 fev?today? tomorrow?



binary solo on 08 February 2014
spurgeonryan said:
FlamingWeazel said:
spurgeonryan said:
Yes probably. But it makes sense. PS4 is 100 dollars less, MAN!

The X1 is great from what I have tried and seen at kiosks. The price is just killing it.
Although I will say that both it and PS4 are sold out in most areas on a regular basis. But that does not say much since the Wii U is as well....but I think that is just because retailers are not ordering anymore.

The x1 has not been sold out in most areas for a long long time, even in the US  a tonne is sitting on shelves. It's more then price, ps3 was more expensive, Playstation is a bigger brand World wide period.


I think you will argue with anyone whenever you get a chance.

 

Maybe not in your area, but I have not seen a X1 in a while. Sorry for where you live Sir.

Playstation is a bigger brand? That is why according to Seece the X360 is still technically ahead of PS3 or recently passed? Only worldwide because Sony owns Japan. Microsoft cannot get a foothold.

And yes, as I said. Price Matters. PS3 was more expensive and it took many price drops for people to finally push it over the 360. Plus as we said....Japan.

 

Anyways, price is a big factor. 500 bucks is a lot of freaking money, Man!

You're pulling out that tired argument again? 8 years on market vs 7 years. The only reason 360 is still ahead/even with PS3 is because of the huge lead in the USA. In 95% of markets PS3 is comfortably ahead of 360. So yeah, on a global basis PS is a much stronger brand than Xb. Outside the USA PS3=55M sold, Xb 360 = 36M sold, that's not just down to Japan

Definitely price is a factor, but mostly in USA. If Xb one was the same price as PS4 in Europe I think the sales gap would still be big, just not as big as it is right now. If MS really wanted to compete with PS4 in Europe it would have to be at least $50 cheaper, probably more like $100 cheaper.

As to the trade-in deal itself, I doubt it's achieved anything. After all as the article says you can trade in your PS3 to offset the cost of PS4 and even if you only get $50 for the PS3, that's still a PS4 for $50 less than Xb one with a PS3 trade in. People aren't that stupid, they're not going to go from intending to get a PS4 to intending to get a Xb one on the basis of this offer. However people intending to going from PS to XB will be enticed to buy now rather than later.



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binary solo on 08 February 2014
OttoniBastos said:
I don't know if this matter but saw a lot of Xone's "price cut" deals these days on internet(N4G,Neogaf,Etc...) but not for PS4.

This could mean that there is a lot o Xone on shelves that nobody wants?

There are retailers here discounting Xb one by $50 or more. I don't know wh's taking the loss on those discounts. But if the cost to market is US$471 then a $50 price cut here pretty much means a small loss on hardware.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

NobleTeam360 on 08 February 2014

No.



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MoHasanie on 08 February 2014

If they were so worried then we would have seen a price drop by now.
Also most PS3 owners would know that they could sell their ps3 at other places for more than $100.



    

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gergroy on 08 February 2014

console trade in offers have been widely available for years haven't they? is this really a promotion that needs to be picked apart for hidden meaning?



Fifaguy360 on 08 February 2014
daredevil.shark said:
spurgeonryan said:
Yes probably. But it makes sense. PS4 is 100 dollars less, MAN!

The X1 is great from what I have tried and seen at kiosks. The price is just killing it.
Although I will say that both it and PS4 are sold out in most areas on a regular basis. But that does not say much since the Wii U is as well....but I think that is just because retailers are not ordering anymore.


Yeah. Nintendo is not even considered by many people in the console war. Who would have thought they will be in this situation after the success of wii?

I think many people predicted the wii's success would be a one-trick pony. Nintendo desperately needed to bring a console and online service that rivalled xb1 and ps4 head on and they failed to deliver that so far.



prayformojo on 08 February 2014

The industry is better when MS is squirming like a little worm on a hook. So, so, satisfying.



Dark_Feanor on 08 February 2014
binary solo said:
OttoniBastos said:
I don't know if this matter but saw a lot of Xone's "price cut" deals these days on internet(N4G,Neogaf,Etc...) but not for PS4.

This could mean that there is a lot o Xone on shelves that nobody wants?

There are retailers here discounting Xb one by $50 or more. I don't know wh's taking the loss on those discounts. But if the cost to market is US$471 then a $50 price cut here pretty much means a small loss on hardware.


Please, post a pic or a link for those discounts.

OT: This article is what I like to call a "mental masturbation". It's just a bunch of inaccurated assumptions with a short sight view of the market.

1- The promotion is for USA only, a place where sales seens to be 1 to 1.

2- This kind of deal is not anusual in NA, Samsung, Amazon and others had done this many time.

3- WW sales are much closer than VGChartz numbers are showing, it's 4,2mi vs 3,9mi shipped. No way in hell every single PS4 shipped had been sold until december 31.