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hinch said:
theprof00 said:
hinch said:
theprof00 said:
hinch said:

If the PSP Go is anything to go, theres one thing you shouldn't do as a games console manufacturer. Go full retard digital.

The sooner companies realise this, the better.

Most computers are fully digital. All phones are digital.

What makes you think pspgo sets the standard? PSPGo was an extremely flawed console from the get-go. I'm not sure it had a lot to do with being digital...it was just not a great product.

I'm talking strictly about dedicated gaming consoles. Home cosoles, portables the OUYA's etc.

Smart devices are not comparable.

I know what you're saying but PCs went from media to digital. Why couldn't a console? I believe a console could sell well without a disc-drive. Maybe not 1:1, but could push more than its fair share.

Good point.

Though, again the audience for PC games are completely different to those who play primarily on consoles. People who have been gaming on PC before Steam and the like know how much hassle it is to keep games on their computer/s. Managing games library, manually update stuff, not to mention the technical jargon involved in getting the games running. Keeping them all under roof and having a unified platform for most games on the market for PC games has been a boon for a lot of people.

The same thing can't be said for a console gamers who've been accustomed to playing on retail discs bought from stores/online. And do not have the means to play them by just downloads. It might sound silly but having a bad/limited interenet connection can put consumers off buying a product especially when it doesn't effectively work out of the box like their previous machine. PC's at the end of the day still function as, well computers. Consumers have the choice on what they buy. PC gamers don't have the choice so it is generally accepted.

But anyway, long story short.. I just don't see it working out for consoles (for now). After several marked attempts from multiple manufacturers who venture in this most of them end up doing pretty badly. Anyway, an all digital console is inevitable.. it just wont be a thing for a while until everybody jump on board.


It took about 5 years for pc to go from media to digital, at actual push. I think it would probably take the same. ms could do this possibly, but sony actually has better foundation in place to do it first with psnow.



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theprof00 said:


It took about 5 years for pc to go from media to digital, at actual push. I think it would probably take the same. ms could do this possibly, but sony actually has better foundation in place to do it first with psnow.

Yeah, you can already see MS and Sony push more digital content much more this generation and it has only just begun. Its like what you said.. both companies will use online services and digital content as a trojan horse to that end.

MS are undoubtedly on this. They were spearheading in that direction with the Xbox One before the whole 'always online' DRM debacle came up. What stopped it from happening? People didn't buy it. Thus the Xbox One they have envisioned never came to be. Which makes me think that an all-digital console from both camps is still a long way away. About Sony.. I'm not sure, but I'm certain they must be on the same, or (at the very least) on a similar wavelength.

Y'know.. I'd actually laugh if Nintendo beats them both to the punch. By releasing their new console as an all digital device and succeeding, at that.



hinch said:
theprof00 said:


It took about 5 years for pc to go from media to digital, at actual push. I think it would probably take the same. ms could do this possibly, but sony actually has better foundation in place to do it first with psnow.

Yeah, you can already see MS and Sony push more digital content much more this generation and it has only just begun. Its like what you said.. both companies will use online services and digital content as a trojan horse to that end.

MS are undoubtedly on this. They were spearheading in that direction with the Xbox One before the whole 'always online' DRM debacle came up. What stopped it from happening? People didn't buy it. Thus the Xbox One they have envisioned never came to be. Which makes me think that an all-digital console from both camps is still a long way away. About Sony.. I'm not sure, but I'm certain they must be on the same, or (at the very least) on a similar wavelength.

Y'know.. I'd actually laugh if Nintendo beats them both to the punch. By releasing their new console as an all digital device and succeeding, at that.

I think it would be funnier if MS push the pre-180 onto consumers with the new SKU. THanks for playing guys, we appreciated all those day 1 sales!



theprof00 said:
hinch said:
theprof00 said:


It took about 5 years for pc to go from media to digital, at actual push. I think it would probably take the same. ms could do this possibly, but sony actually has better foundation in place to do it first with psnow.

Yeah, you can already see MS and Sony push more digital content much more this generation and it has only just begun. Its like what you said.. both companies will use online services and digital content as a trojan horse to that end.

MS are undoubtedly on this. They were spearheading in that direction with the Xbox One before the whole 'always online' DRM debacle came up. What stopped it from happening? People didn't buy it. Thus the Xbox One they have envisioned never came to be. Which makes me think that an all-digital console from both camps is still a long way away. About Sony.. I'm not sure, but I'm certain they must be on the same, or (at the very least) on a similar wavelength.

Y'know.. I'd actually laugh if Nintendo beats them both to the punch. By releasing their new console as an all digital device and succeeding, at that.

I think it would be funnier if MS push the pre-180 onto consumers with the new SKU. THanks for playing guys, we appreciated all those day 1 sales!

Yeah. Doing a complete reversal after being adament on what their vision was. Then.. (after much deliberation) do another reversal on it within the same gen on would be just, hilarious.

Curious to see how people would react to that xP



Agree but it is a rumor yet.



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COD Ghosts moved 1.5 million, Forza moved almost 1 mill, Battlefield moved over 1 mill, Dead Rising moved about .8 million and Ryse did almost .7 million units as well.
Why in gods name would you kill off all those sales ?
Like Patcher said, DUMB DUMB DUMB idea.



Wasn't there a disc-less version of the PSP released not too long ago? How'd that work out again?



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

shikamaru317 said:

What do you mean "kill off those sales"? The people that bought those copies all have disc-drive Xbox One's, they would still be able to play them. Each of those games is available digitally, so the purchasers of the disc-less Xbox One could play those games.

I'm not sure about that.

Take the Minecraft example... a lot of people bought it digital but after the retail release even more bought it... it is like dozen of guys wanted it on retail.



I'm almost expecting Sony to pay an annalist to come out and say "This is a great idea! MS should do this as soon as possible!"

But in all seriousness this would a really stupid idea and I don't think MS would do that. Just imagine the marketing, "The One box for all your entertainment!*"

*unless you want to watch movies.



Bet with Adamblaziken:

I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.

they should do that I need a good laugh.