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marioboy2004 on 28 January 2014

Sony was the exact opposite during the ps3 era and lost a bunch off money off of each console sold



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FlamingWeazel on 28 January 2014

Joke thread? Sony builds it's internal studios by hiring good people and giving them the freedom to do what they want. MS rents talent by paying for third party exclusives... Sony's method is way better imo, and sony has just as many exclusives even with ms throwing money around early this gen. Look at 360 and ps3..ps3 had way more exclusives the last 3-4 years, many award winning.

 

Sony is also doing a better job with indies right now.



golfgt170 on 28 January 2014

HELLO!!!!



FlamingWeazel on 28 January 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
DucksUnlimited said:
Mr Puggsly said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=&publisher=10313&platform=X360&genre=&minSales=0.01&results=100

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=&publisher=1535&platform=PS3&genre=&minSales=0.01&results=200

Thanks, didn't realize you could do it by publisher!

I would've expected a bigger gap, honestly, given the 360's extra year on the market, much higher marketing spending, plus the fact that it had the bigger install base for the vast majority of its life. And even then, without pack-in Kinect Adventures they'd be about even.

Some of your points are worth considering.

However, it should be noted Americans tend to buy more games and that gave MS an advantage. Also, MS had more success with the casual market. Kinect is responsible for a good chunk of 1st party sales.

360 dominated US last gen and had a 1 year head start, thats the only reason for the software difference not quality of exclusives......that's not the same this gen. What happened last gen is now irrelevant.



WebMasterFlex on 28 January 2014

Like many said...
1) Sony owns a lot of studios to make their Uncharted/Gran Turismo/The Last Of Us/inFamous/Killzone/LittleBigPlanet/DriveClub/Team Ico/WipEout/MLB The Show or whatever
2) Everybody knows PS4 got superior multiplateform's games for this generation. You don't need more.

And you can the fact that Ratchet & Clank, Quantic Dream's games, The Order 1886, Deep Down are for PS.



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Mr Puggsly on 28 January 2014
FlamingWeazel said:

360 dominated US last gen and had a 1 year head start, thats the only reason for the software difference not quality of exclusives......that's not the same this gen. What happened last gen is now irrelevant.

They have sold about an equal amount of hardware. I don't think the year ahead excuse is worth anything.

Like I said, Americans buy more games and Xbox sold significantly better in America. That gave them a software sales edge.

I hate to break it to you but the Japanese don't care about Sony's games. They buy consoles for 3rd party games.



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Sweep on 28 January 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kyuu said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kyuu said:

Both consoles don't have great exclusives at the moment. But you can't really blame Sony for not yet announcing any serious third party exclusive (besides The Order 1886) given the messed up financial situation they're in. But Microsoft isn't doing any better in my opinion.


The order is first party not third party. Sony owns the rights to The Order. Ready At Dawn has been making games for them for a good long while.


Ready At Dawn is a private developer. Doesn't matter if the Order is owned by Sony when the developer isn't. To me that sounds like saying Dead Rising 3 isn't third party because Microsoft published it.


No. If the title is owned by Sony its first party. Publishing doesn't guarantee ownership, like what you saw with Gears of War being second party for Microsoft (until they bought the IP) or Alan Wake. Microsoft owns Quantum Break, not Alan Wake. Dead Rising 3 is second party. Microsoft publishes the first game just to keep it away from Sony. The next game will be on the PS4 just like the second was on the PS3. As I said they pay their weaknesses away. If MS focused on internal development it they would've been in a worse off position than Sony at launch. They had to pay outside developers for their stuff and even get third party to make their first party like Killer Instinct.

IIRC

A first party title is a title developed by a publisher's fully owned studio : all titles by Naughty Dog = Fisrt Party

Second Party is when the studio is not owned by the publisher but they work quite exclusively (or completely exclusively) for the publisher, the IP's being publisher's property (Insomniac before Fuse, Ready at Dawn) or Studio's property (Quantic Dreams).

Third Party : The IP is owned by the studio and the Studio doesn't work exclusively for the publisher.



Vasto on 28 January 2014

Xbox One will get all the real exclusives this gen. Cant wait to see whats next. lol



Mr Puggsly on 28 January 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
SlayerRondo said:

Sony put out allot of good games and one fantastic game last year where Microsoft did little to nothing.


He will never admit that Sony put out of a bunch of great first party last gen and had great second and third party exclusives to boot. 

A bunch of great 1st party games? No.

A bunch of good games... I'll give you that.

Sony's games would sell better if they were as great as you think they are.



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FlamingWeazel on 28 January 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
FlamingWeazel said:

360 dominated US last gen and had a 1 year head start, thats the only reason for the software difference not quality of exclusives......that's not the same this gen. What happened last gen is now irrelevant.

They have sold about an equal amount of hardware. I don't think the year ahead excuse is worth anything.

Like I said, Americans buy more games and Xbox sold significantly better in America. That gave them a software sales edge.

I hate to break it to you but the Japanese don't care about Sony's games. They buy consoles for 3rd party games.

They are even in the US? Thats the point. Not so this gen where ps4 has already sold more software.

 

Japan doesn't care for sony game they don't care abotu xbox at all why bring up a strawman argument that has zero to do with anything?