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Mr Puggsly on 24 January 2014
Somini said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Its about teh games! Even if PS4 was 10x more powerful... at the end of the day I need Halo!


For you, you mean. Because if that was universal, Xbone would've sold much more.

Yeah, no shit. I said I need Halo.

I'm giving an example of why not everyone is opting for the PS4. More is considered than just power. Although, the average consumer doesn't even know PS4 is more powerful.



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MonstaTruk on 24 January 2014
theprof00 said:

I don't know how detractors have managed to control a debate to such a point that it no longer makes sense arguing, but it's happened. At this point, both sides are arguing whether you can see the 1080 vs 720 difference, whether fuzziness lends a more cinematic experience, and if too much AA makes things too hard to see.

It's all nonsense.

The argument was never about whether CoD had better shacks, or whether AC4 had "just the right amount of smoke", or if Lara's skin looked 'so lifelike'.

It was about the undeniable FACT of these differences within multiplats PROVES the massive power difference.

People would say, I don't see much of a difference in the resolutions. It doesn't matter what you think...it takes a massive amount of power to go from 720 to 1080. They would think that is a legitimate argument within the context of power! It's like every single new thread that pops up about this is addressing it from such a skewed perspective. And about multiplats no less, where console optimization is likely minimal at best.

Just because you don't think the visual fidelity looks much better, it doesn't mean the capabilities are equal! It doesn't mean that those little differences will be the only difference you'll ever see. Launch multiplat unoptimized ports showing PROVEN difference immediately should tell you that.

I am so tired of reading this garbage everyday. I just want these framerate threads to end. It's so incessant and mindless.

well i'll just leave it at that.

Well said...



Chris Hu on 24 January 2014
ethomaz said:

Chris Hu said:

Still not as big a difference as with the examples that I have gave though.

The difference in raw power is bigger than PS2 to Xbox...


No its not they are basicly more or less the same layout the XBox was a lot more powerfull then the PS2 if you compare the specs the difference is huge.  Also like I said before with those two you could see a clear differernce in power even without side by side game pics compersions.



Mr Puggsly on 24 January 2014
ethomaz said:

Chris Hu said:

Still not as big a difference as with the examples that I have gave though.

The difference in raw power is bigger than PS2 to Xbox...


Hah! No.

The PS2 couldn't duplicate the graphics of the Xbox and it had a fraction of the RAM.

The only thing X1 struggles to do is match PS4 in resolution and/or frame rate.



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Chris Hu on 24 January 2014
kupomogli said:
Chris Hu said:
The power difference really isn't that huge its not like we are talking about original X-Box versus PS2 or SNES versus Sega Genesis/Megadrive where with those you could easily spot the power difference even without having side by side screen comparisons.

It's not as big of a power difference compared to the PS2 and Xbox.  Xbox was between two and four times more powerful overall.  Genesis was more powerful than the SNES though.

The Genesis had a faster processor but when it came to raw power the SNES was miles ahead.  It had better graphics, could display more colors and had better sound.



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kupomogli on 24 January 2014
Chris Hu said:

The Genesis had a faster processor but when it came to raw power the SNES was miles ahead.  It had better graphics, could display more colors and had better sound.

Better CPU and GPU so it was more powerful.  It just had a limit of 512 colors and a worse sound chip.



ethomaz on 24 January 2014

I think people needs to know first what the Emotion Engine is capable.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2000/02/ee/

Of course the Xbox was more powerful but it was no like PS4 to Xbone.



bucky1965 on 24 January 2014
Anfebious said:
Yeah you are right, the power is clearly measurable. The PS4 is way more powerful and we have to spread this around the world! The more people that know about this the merrier, I'll start by telling my 6 year old brother and my dog!

Too bad the the games won't look much different at the end of the day.



Chris Hu on 24 January 2014
kupomogli said:
Chris Hu said:

The Genesis had a faster processor but when it came to raw power the SNES was miles ahead.  It had better graphics, could display more colors and had better sound.

Better CPU and GPU so it was more powerful.  It just had a limit of 512 colors and a worse sound chip.


Nope the SNES was a lot more powerful then the Genesis.  Also you are forgetting about Mode 7 something the Genesis couldn't do.



Moren on 24 January 2014

The problem is not that XOne fans don't understand that the PS4 is more powerful.
It is just PS4 fans fail to understand XOne fans already understood PS4 is more powerful.