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MessiaH on 24 January 2014

Well yeah, no shit it doesn't add hat much to the game. Anyone that thinks otherwise is plain dumb.



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MessiaH on 24 January 2014
MonstaTruk said:
binary solo said:
ethomaz said:

PS3

PS4

PC

You can tell middle is PS4 because it looks like Lara's had plastic surgery since we last saw her.

Wow.  Are you sure?  That second image is sharper than the PC!  :o

Nothing against the quality of the ps4 version, but I like her face more in the PC and ps3 versions. Her eyes have been widened, and face a little more filled in the ps4 version.



binary solo on 24 January 2014
MonstaTruk said:
binary solo said:
ethomaz said:

PS3

PS4

PC

You can tell middle is PS4 because it looks like Lara's had plastic surgery since we last saw her.

Wow.  Are you sure?  That second image is sharper than the PC!  :o

Sharpness doesn't necessarily mean anything. You've got to look at the fine deatil (e.g. the hair effects). And a more matte, soft finish is often more pleasing to the eye. I know over all I prefer the bottom image.



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globalisateur on 24 January 2014
selnor1983 said:
globalisateur said:
selnor1983 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
selnor1983 said:

I wish some users would understand that when someone says 60fps is the aim, and its not locked that it will often drop to below 50. This is why he notices stutter. So like I originally said. I fully expect the average of PS4 frame on DF to be 45 - 50 and Xbox One 35-40.

Both not locked, but both confirmed above 30 all the time and below 60 all the time.

GT6 sufferes stutter, and averages 45-50 on DF.

I would actually of preferred they lock the games at 30 fps. Hopefully the One version you dont notice the stutter as much because it never hits 60.


LMAo only you would try to spin this to downplay the gap. The ps4 is at 60 FPS 95% of the time, this from the game rpoducer himself, no way is it an 45 average then it would not be 60 would it. You can expect waht you want, it won;t be reality.  The one will be close to 30, ps4 60, thats just fact, both will fluctuate a bit then go back to norms.

Call it what you want. I dont relish the reports coming in of frame rate stutter. I wouldd have preferred My Xbox One version lockedd at 30 if its in the Xbox version to. Wait for Digital Foundry before calling facts. People promised  GT6 was 60fps, but that dips often well below 50.


Here another neogaf preview confirming the "mostly" 60fps with some occasionnal dips in demanding scenes:

"The graphics are simply gorgeous and the framerate seems to mostly 60fps. Some scenes take a hit, but it's not enough to detract from my experience. Edges seem to be very crisp and clean with some form of AA, the texture detail is superb, and the new particle effects are instantly recognizable."

What more do you need? Do you even know that 99.999% of current (open 3D world) games do stutter? Zero stuttering in this kind of demanding game is impossible even on a PC with a Titan. Even COD Ghosts on a Titan does stutter, did you know that?

Please enough with this nonsense.

TRDE is a 60fps game on PS4 and a 30fps game on X1, accept it. Stop looking for unfair negatives on the PS4 version or are you a Polygon reviewer?


Niether version is locked. Niether version maintains a framerate constant. You cant say that either game is x or y. Its only digital foundry which will tell us exactly whats going on. Chill out. No matter how many times you tell me, that doesnt shift the fact that the framerates arent locked. To many vRying opinions Round the web on the performance. As I said I eas in my opinion is digital foundry will show a considerable amount of fluctuation on both platforms. I maintain if it effects gameplay then id want locked 30fps. 


Do you even understand what we are talking about in this thread(s)?

PS4 version is by default locked at 60fps! And it apparently sustains 60fps quite well with occassionnal dips on some demanding scenes (by the real previews, not vgchartz guesses).

 

What Digital foundry will tell us is the average gap of framerate between the 2 versions. But as we already know that for BF4, even with 44% more pixels on PS4 does push on average 10fps more than X1 hence 20% (from 45fps to 55fps average)+ 44% from resolution up equals a 72% delta (1.2 * 1.44 = 1.72 in fact not 20 + 40). PS4 is in average 72% more powerfull than X1 in BF4, that's a mathematical fact, no question of denying it. But it depends of the game of course and assets, resolution or framerate etc.

So it means normally DF wil tell us a roughly 21-25FPS constant gap between the 2 versions (35fps * 1.72 = 60.2fps, Surprise!). That's roughly what I am expecting. Theorically of course, one can never know.

Meaning when PS4 is constant 60fps, the game on X1 is at 35fps, that's almost a perfect 72% difference (from 35 to 60).

When PS4 dips at 45FPS, the game on X1 dips at 26fps etc. The 10fps gap with BF4 was surprisingly constant on the DF video no reason it wouldn't be constant with Tomb raider.

But as the 2 versions are made by 2 different developers,those  numbers (framerate average gap) may be quite different than my 21-25FPS theorical gap. I suspect it may be lower like 15-20fps with less dips on X1 if they specifically optimized for it too avoid to many sub-30fps drops (yes X1 version will certainly have them!).



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drkohler on 24 January 2014
binary solo said:
MonstaTruk said:

Wow.  Are you sure?  That second image is sharper than the PC!  :o

Sharpness doesn't necessarily mean anything. You've got to look at the fine deatil (e.g. the hair effects). And a more matte, soft finish is often more pleasing to the eye. I know over all I prefer the bottom image.

ok she got a new hairdresser... What about the catastrophic sharpener on the XBox one, activated? I'd love to see the XBox One pictures as well.



globalisateur on 24 January 2014

PS4 top (sharp), PC bottom (blurry)




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Trunkin on 24 January 2014
Nsanity said:

Wow. The PC version still looks much nicer. I'm assuming those are max settings, but is there any info on what kind of system its running on and the framerate?



BHR-3 on 24 January 2014

waiting for DF analysis could be a case similar to bf4 and cod ghost



                                                             

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FATALITY on 24 January 2014
CGI-Quality said:
Trunkin said:
Nsanity said:
-pics

Wow. The PC version still looks much nicer. I'm assuming those are max settings, but is there any info on what kind of system its running on and the framerate?

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