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Cthulhu on 24 January 2014
selnor1983 said:
IMO Xbox Gold Games starts on The One in Summer 2014? Meaning the first games are only 6 moths old. So on the Xbox One at least this program imo is far better than PSN+ as users will be getting 2 games a month still worth £25 each brand new and TO KEEP, NOT Rent.

On 360 it started really late, and so we got games worth nothing and already played. But now we get games up to date and still worth money brand new.

IMO Ill take a free copy of DR3 in June to keep and then say Crimson Dragon? Thankyou Microsoft for saving me £50/month on games I would have waited longer to purchase.

WoW great move from MS, the saved you imaginary money on those imaginary june 2014 offers

Now look what i got from PSN+ and calculate how much real money SONY saved me. Now tell me...but...but those are just rentals.

Game Date added Date removed Ref.
1 Wipeout HD June 29, 2010 [1]
2 Zen Pinball August 4, 2010 [2]
3 Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse (episodes 1–5) September 1, 2010 [3]
4 Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix October 6, 2010 [4]
5 Critter Crunch November 3, 2010 [5]
6 Cuboid December 1, 2010 [6]
7 Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves December 7, 2010 [7]
8 Shatter January 5, 2011 [8]
9 Lead and Gold: Gangs of the Wild West February 2, 2011 [9]
10 Astro Tripper March 2, 2011 [10]
11 Sonic the Hedgehog March 2, 2011 [10]
12 Prince of Persia Classic April 6, 2011 [11]
13 Red Faction: Battlegrounds April 6, 2011 [11]
14 Sonic the Hedgehog 2 April 6, 2011 [11]
15 Pain April 20, 2011 [12]
16 Burnout Paradise June 2, 2011 [13]
17 Magic: The Gathering – Duels of the Planeswalkers June 2, 2011 [13]
18 Streets of Rage 2 June 2, 2011 [13]
19 Golden Axe July 6, 2011 [14]
20 Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars July 6, 2011 [14]
21 Castle Crashers July 13, 2011 [15]
22 Comet Crash July 26, 2011 [16]
23 Comix Zone August 3, 2011 [17]
24 Crash Commando August 3, 2011 [17]
25 Altered Beast September 7, 2011 [18]
26 Plants vs. Zombies September 7, 2011 [18]
27 Dead Nation October 26, 2011 [19]
28 Hydrophobia Prophecy November 2, 2011 [20]
29 Tomb Raider: Underworld December 7, 2011 [21]
30 Marvel Pinball December 14, 2011 [21]
31 Back to the Future: The Game (episodes 1–5) January 4, 2012 [22]
32 Voodoo Dice January 4, 2012 [22]
33 Far Cry 2 February 8, 2012 [23]
34 The Simpsons Arcade Game February 8, 2012 [23]
35 Sly Raccoon March 7, 2012 [24]
36 Trine 2 March 7, 2012 [24]
37 Shank 2 April 4, 2012 [25]
38 Shift 2: Unleashed April 4, 2012 [25]
39 Awesomenauts May 2, 2012 [26]
40 Hamsterball May 2, 2012 [26]
41 Magic Orbz May 2, 2012 [26]
42 Mahjong Tales: Ancient Wisdom May 2, 2012 [26]
43 Mushroom Wars May 2, 2012 [26]
44 Ricochet HD May 2, 2012 [26]
45 Sky Fighter May 2, 2012 [26]
46 Smash Cars May 2, 2012 [26]
47 Wakeboarding HD May 2, 2012 [26]
48 Chime Super Deluxe June 6, 2012 [27]
49 Darksiders June 6, 2012 [27]
50 Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HD June 6, 2012 [27]
51 Outland June 6, 2012 [27]
52 Renegade Ops June 6, 2012 [27]
53 Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown June 6, 2012 [27]
54 Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine June 6, 2012 [27]
55 InFamous 2 June 6, 2012 June 12, 2013 [27][28]
56 LittleBigPlanet 2 June 6, 2012 June 12, 2013 [27][28]
57 MotorStorm: Apocalypse June 6, 2012 June 12, 2013 [27][28]
58 Deus Ex: Human Revolution July 4, 2012 [29]
59 Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light July 18, 2012 [30]
60 Saints Row 2 July 18, 2012 [30]
61 Dead Space 2 August 1, 2012 [31]
62 Rock of Ages August 1, 2012 [31]
63 Borderlands August 16, 2012 [32]
64 Just Cause 2 August 16, 2012 [32]
65 Retro/Grade August 22, 2012 [32]
66 Red Dead Redemption September 5, 2012 [33]
67 Double Dragon Neon September 12, 2012 [33]
68 Machinarium September 12, 2012 [33]
69 Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: The Game September 12, 2012 [33]
70 Starhawk (single player) September 26, 2012 [34]
71 Hell Yeah! Wrath of the Dead Rabbit October 3, 2012 [35]
72 Bulletstorm October 10, 2012 [35]
73 Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition October 10, 2012 [35]
74 Cubixx HD November 7, 2012 [36]
75 Crysis 2 November 7, 2012 [36]
76 Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One November 7, 2012 [36]
77 Batman: Arkham City December 5, 2012 [37]
78 Limbo December 5, 2012 [37]
79 Vanquish December 5, 2012 [37]
80 Big Sky Infinity (cross-buy) December 12, 2012 [37]
81 Knytt Underground (cross-buy) December 21, 2012 [37]
82 Mortal Kombat January 2, 2013 [38]
82 Gotham City Impostors (Australia and Germany) January 2, 2013 [38]
83 BioShock 2 January 2, 2013 [38]
84 Guardians of Middle-earth January 2, 2013 [38]
85 Sleeping Dogs February 6, 2013 [39]
85 Binary Domain (Germany) February 6, 2013 [39]
86 F1 Race Stars February 6, 2013 May 1, 2013 [39][40]
87 Quantum Conundrum February 6, 2013 May 1, 2013 [39][40]
88 Mass Effect 3 March 6, 2013 [41]
89 Dead or Alive 5 March 6, 2013 May 29, 2013 [41][42]
90 Joe Danger 2: The Movie March 6, 2013 May 29, 2013 [41][42]
91 Ōkami HD April 3, 2013 May 1, 2013 [43][40]
92 The Cave April 3, 2013 July 3, 2013 [43][44]
93 The Lord of the Rings: War in the North April 3, 2013 July 3, 2013 [43][44]
94 Thomas Was Alone (cross-buy) April 24, 2013 May 22, 2013 [43][40]
95 Hitman: Absolution May 1, 2013 May 29, 2013 [40][42]
96 Catherine May 1, 2013 July 31, 2013 [40][45]
97 Malicious May 1, 2013 July 31, 2013 [40][45]
98 Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning May 29, 2013 July 3, 2013 [42][44]
99 Demon's Souls May 29, 2013 August 28, 2013 [42][46]
100 Ico & Shadow of the Colossus May 29, 2013 August 28, 2013 [42][46]
101 LittleBigPlanet Karting June 12, 2013 June 2014 [28]
102 Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (single player) June 12, 2013 June 2014 [28]
103 XCOM: Enemy Unknown June 12, 2013 June 2014 [28]
104 Battlefield 3 July 3, 2013 July 31, 2013 [44][45]
105 Payday: The Heist July 3, 2013 September 25, 2013 [44][47]
106 Saints Row: The Third July 3, 2013 September 25, 2013 [44][47]
107 Need for Speed: Most Wanted July 31, 2013 August 28, 2013 [45][46]
108 When Vikings Attack! (cross-buy) July 31, 2013 August 28, 2013 [45][46]
109 Mafia II July 31, 2013 October 23, 2013 [45][48]
110 Spec Ops: The Line July 31, 2013 October 23, 2013 [45][48]
110 NBA 2K13 (United Arab Emirates) July 31, 2013 October 23, 2013 [45][48]
111 Assassin's Creed III August 28, 2013 September 25, 2013 [46][47]
112 The Jak and Daxter Trilogy (cross-buy) August 28, 2013 November 27, 2013 [46][49]
113 Stealth Inc: A Clone in the Dark (cross-buy) August 28, 2013 [46]
114 Far Cry 3 September 25, 2013 October 23, 2013 [47][48]
115 Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen September 25, 2013 December 24, 2013 [47][50]
116 Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams September 25, 2013 [47]
117 Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance October 23, 2013 November 27, 2013 [48][49]
118 MotorStorm RC (cross-buy) October 23, 2013 November 27, 2013 [48][49]
119 Remember Me October 23, 2013 January 29, 2014 [48][51]
120 Grid 2 November 27, 2013 December 24, 2013 [49][50]
121 Guacamelee! (cross-buy) November 27, 2013 [49]
122 DmC: Devil May Cry December 24, 2013 January 29, 2014 [50][51]
123 Borderlands 2 December 24, 2013 [50]
124 BioShock Infinite January 29, 2014 [51]
125 Metro: Last Light January 29, 2014 [51]

PlayStation 4

Game Date added Date removed Ref.
1 Contrast November 29, 2013 January 8, 2014 [49][50]
2 Resogun February 5, 2014 [49][51]
3 Don't Starve January 8, 2014 [50][51]
4 Outlast February 5, 2014 [51]

PlayStation Vita

Game Date added Date removed Ref.
1 Chronovolt November 21, 2012 [52]
2 Gravity Rush
3 Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack
4 Uncharted: Golden Abyss
5 Big Sky Infinity (cross-buy) December 12, 2012 [37]
6 Mortal Kombat December 19, 2012
7 Knytt Underground (cross-buy) December 21, 2012
8 Jet Set Radio January 16, 2013 [38]
9 The Pinball Arcade January 23, 2013
10 Wipeout 2048 February 13, 2013 [39]
11 Lumines Electronic Symphony February 20, 2013
12 Metal Gear Solid HD Collection March 13, 2013 [41]
13 Puddle March 20, 2013
14 Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward April 10, 2013 May 8, 2013 [43][40]
15 Thomas Was Alone (cross-buy) April 24, 2013 May 22, 2013
16 Sine Mora May 8, 2013 June 5, 2013 [40][42]
17 Velocity Ultra May 15, 2013 June 12, 2013
18 Coconut Dodge: Revitalised June 5, 2013 July 3, 2013 [42][43]
19 Rayman Origins
20 Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus July 3, 2013 July 31, 2013 [44][45]
21 Unit 13
22 Lego Lord of the Rings July 31, 2013 August 28, 2013 [45][46]
23 When Vikings Attack! (cross-buy)
24 New Little King's Story August 28, 2013 September 25, 2013 [46][47]
25 Urban Trial Freestyle
26 The Jak and Daxter Trilogy (cross-buy) November 27, 2013 [46][49]
27 Stealth Inc: A Clone in the Dark (cross-buy) [46]
28 Street Fighter X Tekken September 25, 2013 October 23, 2013 [47][48]
29 Touch My Katamari
30 MotorStorm RC (cross-buy) October 23, 2013 November 27, 2013 [48][49]
31 Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HD
32 Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed November 27, 2013 December 24, 2013 [49][50]
33 Guacamelee! (cross-buy) [49]
34 BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend December 24, 2013 January 29, 2014 [50][51]
35 Soul Sacrifice
36 Dynasty Warriors Next January 29, 2014 [51]
37 ModNation Racers: Road Trip

Other platforms

Game Platform Date added Date removed Ref.
1 Age of Zombies Minis June 29, 2010 [1]
2 Destruction Derby PSone
3 Fieldrunners Minis
4 Alien Zombie Death Minis August 4, 2010 [2]
5 Blast-Off Minis
6 MediEvil PSone
7 Echoes Minis September 1, 2010 [3]
8 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee PSone
9 Vector TD Minis
10 Aero Racer Minis October 6, 2010 [4]
11 Kula World PSone
12 Yetisports Minis
13 Bloons Minis November 3, 2010 [5]
14 Syphon Filter PSone
15 Vempire Minis
16 Bubble Trubble Minis December 1, 2010 [6]
17 Dracula: Undead Awakening Minis
18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus PSone
19 Samurai Showdown Neo Geo December 22, 2010 [53]
20 G-Police PSone January 5, 2011 [8]
21 Kahoots Minis
22 Pipe Madness Minis
23 BreakQuest Minis February 2, 2011 [9]
24 I Must Run! Minis
25 Karimogi Minis
26 Magician Lord Neo Geo
27 Flying Hamster Minis February 14, 2011 [54]
28 Enigmo Minis March 2, 2011 [10]
29 Guilty Gear PSone
30 Pix'n Love Rush Minis
31 Duæl Invaders Minis April 6, 2011 [11]
32 Dynogems Minis
33 Creatures 3: Raised in Space PSone
34 The 2D Adventures of Rotating Octopus Character Minis June 2, 2011 [13]
35 Babel: The King of the Blocks Minis
36 James Pond 2: Codename RoboCod PSone
37 Dr. Maybe and the Adventures of Scarygirl Minis July 6, 2011 [14]
38 JellyCar 2 Minis
39 Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver PSone
40 Me, Monstar! Hear Me Roar Minis
41 Bashi Blocks Minis August 3, 2011 [17]
42 OMG-Z! Minis
43 Rayman PSone
44 Jelly Pops Minis September 7, 2011 [18]
45 Kaleidoscope Minis
46 Resident Evil: Director's Cut PSone
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (Germany and New Zealand) PSone
47 Crash Bandicoot PSone November 2, 2011 [20]
48 Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back PSone
49 Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped PSone
50 Crash Team Racing PSone
51 Rumble Trucks Minis
52 Where Is My Heart? Minis
53 Cool Boarders PSone December 7, 2011 [21]
54 Orbit Minis
55 Sneezies Minis
56 Arc the Lad PSone January 4, 2012 [22]
57 Rally Cross PSone
58 Stick Man Rescue Minis
59 TrailBlazer Minis
60 Farm Frenzy Minis February 1, 2012 [23]
61 Final Fantasy V PSone
62 Hungry Giraffe Minis
63 Farm Frenzy 2 Minis March 7, 2012 [24]
64 The Impossible Game Minis
65 Jet Rider PSone
66 Floating Cloud God Saves the Pilgrims Minis April 4, 2012 [25]
67 Golf Mania Minis
68 Silent Hill PSone
69 LA Gridlock Minis May 2, 2012 [26]
70 Max Payne PS2
71 Velocity Minis
72 Lego Batman: The Videogame (Australia and Germany) PSP December 19, 2012 [37]
73 Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories PSP November 27, 2013 January 29, 2014 [49][51]


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Putin on 24 January 2014

You do understand that you don't own games that you get in gold live. They digitals, you can't do anything with them except replay in 2-3 years. Which in 99% won't happen, because you won't have time for it.
And I bet that in 2-3 years you still pay for gold as PSN users pay for +, so we all can play our "free" games. So the difference only is what games do we play. I just downloaded Shadow of Colossus, Bioshock infinity(some say it's GOTY), Brothers(same GOTY for some critics) vita game, PS4 game. Those games I wanted to try out but don't want pay the asking price. So I win in this. Dunno if 360-users will ever get Bioshock in their gold subscription. Or Metro Last Light for that matter.

I bet the first game XBO will get is Forza 5 or Ryce. Selnor you clearly have those, what do you get for free eh?))
They need t give Titanfall or Halo 5...



Fusioncode on 24 January 2014

I know saying PS+ is better than Gold is an opinion is pretty much an opinion, but at this point it may as well be fact to me. I'm subscribed to both services, and I can safely say PS+ is 100% better in nearly every aspect. People can argue about differences of "renting" and "owning" all they want, but at the end of the day, the PS+ catalogue is SO much better than the bargain bin titles they throw on Gold every month. Thanks for Halo 3 guys! You totally saved me $6!

Also, Microsoft just gives away games for 360, Sony gives games away for PS3, PS4, and Vita. Someone who owns all three systems is going to get six games per month! Why couldn't Microsoft give away XBO games at launch? Sony did with PS4. We've already gotten Resogun, Contrast, and Don't Starve. In a few months we'll be getting retail titles. Or why didn't Microsoft give away games on Windows Phones, I'd love that too. As long as Microsoft is too cheap to get a decent selection then Sony will have the upper hand.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

kabamarutr on 24 January 2014

Where I live I hear people say: "If you have PS+, you don't have to buy games any more".

Make of that what you will.



This, I stole from grandpa...It's called soap.

Pemalite on 24 January 2014
Cthulhu said:
selnor1983 said:
IMO Xbox Gold Games starts on The One in Summer 2014? Meaning the first games are only 6 moths old. So on the Xbox One at least this program imo is far better than PSN+ as users will be getting 2 games a month still worth £25 each brand new and TO KEEP, NOT Rent.

On 360 it started really late, and so we got games worth nothing and already played. But now we get games up to date and still worth money brand new.

IMO Ill take a free copy of DR3 in June to keep and then say Crimson Dragon? Thankyou Microsoft for saving me £50/month on games I would have waited longer to purchase.

WoW great move from MS, the saved you imaginary money on those imaginary june 2014 offers

Now look what i got from PSN+ and calculate how much real money SONY saved me. Now tell me...but...but those are just rentals.

People keep saying how much money they "save" buy buying into Xbox Live and PSN+.

Here is the kicker. You don't save money, you spend it to get that, thus you saved nothing, what counts is the intrinsic value that you may find in such a pay wall and what is essentially DRM.

I wish Microsoft and Sony felt more threatened by Steam, at-least on Steam it's free to use and you get free games.




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J_Allard on 24 January 2014
Xenostar said:

Theres no retail because theres no 6 month old games yet, thats when they will start, Drive Club had to be a cut down edition or Shops would of been loathe to even stock it, if you could get the full game for less by buying a Plus SUB. The full retail games will come, my bet would be the week after E3 with a big E3 announcment.

You flatter Sony to much if you think MS are copying Sonys lead of being a bit shit for the first year to magically turn it around at the following E3, most companies would just try and comepete with the current standard not emulate the other companies mis steps as well. 

You only reinforce my point with the first paragraph.

@bold, 2 years. 2010-2012.

Also, I didn't say they were copying what Sony did. I actually detailed why they DON'T need to copy Sony with the 360 Games with Gold.



Xenostar on 24 January 2014
J_Allard said:
Xenostar said:

Theres no retail because theres no 6 month old games yet, thats when they will start, Drive Club had to be a cut down edition or Shops would of been loathe to even stock it, if you could get the full game for less by buying a Plus SUB. The full retail games will come, my bet would be the week after E3 with a big E3 announcment.

You flatter Sony to much if you think MS are copying Sonys lead of being a bit shit for the first year to magically turn it around at the following E3, most companies would just try and comepete with the current standard not emulate the other companies mis steps as well. 

You only reinforce my point with the first paragraph.

@bold, 2 years. 2010-2012.

Also, I didn't say they were copying what Sony did. I actually detailed why they DON'T need to copy Sony with the 360 Games with Gold.

Your right it is 2 years my time flys.

But the reason youve not seen retail on PS4 yet has nothing to do with the fact that they now charge for online, there just is no back catalogue yet. With Vita they just waited 6 months before they included it in PLUS, this is what MS are doing with the X One.  This time Sony have decided to give away brand new indie games for the first 6 months till there is a back catalogue of retail games to choose from, as they often give away brand new indie titles on PS3 and Vita too. 

Drive club is a PS+ edition, becuase they have NEVER given a retail game away free on its launch. This is just a special case most likely a trial to see how many people will pay to upgrade to the full version. 

So there is no evidence to suggest Sony is going to scale back on there offering just because there charging for online now. If anything the evidence points to the opposite as in the last 10 months the PS3 games have just got better and better.

What i think will happen over the next 12 months from E3 onwards is they will scale up the PS4 games, while scaling down the PS3 games to try and get more people to upgrade to the PS4.



Mr Puggsly on 24 January 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsoft owes their community so much more for all the nickel and diming.


MS doesn't owe anything. Nobody was forced to buy Xbox products.

Sony fucked up for much of the 7th gen and that forced them to be more competitive. MS should offer more to compete with Sony, not because they owe it.

 Who said they had to force you Some people dont complain because they cant see things not do they like to get confrontational when things matter (Thats definitely not me.). Sony has given Sony gamers quite a bit over the years. When owning both systems its about time Microsoft did the same when they've been profiting more and giving back little to nothing.

You're talking nonsense.

Sony didn't give shit when they were making great profits. Now that they're struggling and many of their fans left... they created some services that are a good value.

Now MS is in a positition where Gold needs to be a greater value.



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Nem on 25 January 2014
kabamarutr said:
Games nowadays have, mostly, 6-8 hours worth of single player. After that, it's garbage to me. So, I prefer to keep my garbage digital and not have to pay a buckload for it, thank you very much. Rent it is, then, if rent is how some people call it.


I have a feeling you play FPS alot. Most games nowadays seem to have campaigns on the dozens of hours. 

Also, ever heard about reselling your stuff (wich you dont care about) and getting some money back?



kabamarutr on 25 January 2014
Nem said:
kabamarutr said:
Games nowadays have, mostly, 6-8 hours worth of single player. After that, it's garbage to me. So, I prefer to keep my garbage digital and not have to pay a buckload for it, thank you very much. Rent it is, then, if rent is how some people call it.


I have a feeling you play FPS alot. Most games nowadays seem to have campaigns on the dozens of hours. 

Also, ever heard about reselling your stuff (wich you dont care about) and getting some money back?

I play little fps. Isn't GoW3 around 6-8 hours? Or even U3? 

Yes, I've heard about such a thing. But I don't like to get in the trouble. So... 50$ a year and all trouble is over.



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