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kabamarutr said:
Nem said:
kabamarutr said:
Games nowadays have, mostly, 6-8 hours worth of single player. After that, it's garbage to me. So, I prefer to keep my garbage digital and not have to pay a buckload for it, thank you very much. Rent it is, then, if rent is how some people call it.


I have a feeling you play FPS alot. Most games nowadays seem to have campaigns on the dozens of hours. 

Also, ever heard about reselling your stuff (wich you dont care about) and getting some money back?

I play little fps. Isn't GoW3 around 6-8 hours? Or even U3? 

Yes, I've heard about such a thing. But I don't like to get in the trouble. So... 50$ a year and all trouble is over.


Trouble? Do you mean you are too lazy to go to the shop to resell your games? Cause theres no legal troubles if thats what you meant.

About length yeah, Uncharted 3, GoW3 are about 10 hours long, but for example Assassins Creed, dozens of hours, GTA dozens, Skyrim hundreads, Fallout hundreads, JRPG's dozens, driving games dozens, mass effect dozens, etc.



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Nem said:
kabamarutr said:
Nem said:
kabamarutr said:
Games nowadays have, mostly, 6-8 hours worth of single player. After that, it's garbage to me. So, I prefer to keep my garbage digital and not have to pay a buckload for it, thank you very much. Rent it is, then, if rent is how some people call it.


I have a feeling you play FPS alot. Most games nowadays seem to have campaigns on the dozens of hours. 

Also, ever heard about reselling your stuff (wich you dont care about) and getting some money back?

I play little fps. Isn't GoW3 around 6-8 hours? Or even U3? 

Yes, I've heard about such a thing. But I don't like to get in the trouble. So... 50$ a year and all trouble is over.


Trouble? Do you mean you are too lazy to go to the shop to resell your games? Cause theres no legal troubles if thats what you meant.

About length yeah, Uncharted 3, GoW3 are about 10 hours long, but for example Assassins Creed, dozens of hours, GTA dozens, Skyrim hundreads, Fallout hundreads, JRPG's dozens, driving games dozens, mass effect dozens, etc.


Where I live, shops take any game back for 5$, be it AAA or an annual sports game that has no value once the year has come to pass.

How many out of those games have you seen offered by PS+? Them being the exception on the norm, most games take a couple of days to finish. Thus, completing a circle to the argument, they are then rendered virtually garbage.

So! I prefer not having to pay much for a 10-12 hour (have it your way) game which I will complete in 2-3 days and not touch again. PS+ is the ideal option for me - and many other it seems - as it offers me enough games to let me get by the month , while I have paid a single games worth 50$. I want need DmC again after I've finished it. Nor Hitman, Deus Ex, AC III, U3, etc etc.



This, I stole from grandpa...It's called soap.

All I know is + is insane, I got Dragons Dogma, Borderlands 2 and Bioshok Infinite in 2 months time, Im playing Borderlands 2 and have started Bioshok Ininite and Im liking both. Had I not goten them for free Id never have played them.

They also gave me Grid 2, I hate racing games but my brother is playing the heck out of it. These 4 games alone are worth more than my years sub and Ive played few Vita games as well I got from + (2 actualy, Uncharted Golden Abyss and Gravity Rush) and I also downloaded Soul Sacrifice but I dont have time to play all this stuf Im getting for free lol.



kabamarutr said:
Nem said:


Trouble? Do you mean you are too lazy to go to the shop to resell your games? Cause theres no legal troubles if thats what you meant.

About length yeah, Uncharted 3, GoW3 are about 10 hours long, but for example Assassins Creed, dozens of hours, GTA dozens, Skyrim hundreads, Fallout hundreads, JRPG's dozens, driving games dozens, mass effect dozens, etc.


Where I live, shops take any game back for 5$, be it AAA or an annual sports game that has no value once the year has come to pass.

How many out of those games have you seen offered by PS+? Them being the exception on the norm, most games take a couple of days to finish. Thus, completing a circle to the argument, they are then rendered virtually garbage.

So! I prefer not having to pay much for a 10-12 hour (have it your way) game which I will complete in 2-3 days and not touch again. PS+ is the ideal option for me - and many other it seems - as it offers me enough games to let me get by the month , while I have paid a single games worth 50$. I want need DmC again after I've finished it. Nor Hitman, Deus Ex, AC III, U3, etc etc.


I'm sure its good for you, but you are not getting anything "free". And, i still say you only buy a certain type of game for you to say games are that short, unless you play them 24/7. Not even Uncharted or GoW are games i finish in 2 to 3 days. I guess it depends on the kind of marathons one does.

I hear PS+ defenders talk about it like its incredible and everyone should jump on it, completely disregarding that there are different styles of gamers. PS+ does not fit my gaming style and its also not cheaper. I buy games on the cheap one year after they come out. If i dont think i want to keep them i get about half of tham investment back. Not only that, but i choose wich games i get. Something that doesnt happen with PS+ (Sony chooses for you).

Tel me, do you even finish all the PS+ games you get? I know the answer, but i want to make it obvious to you. Good that it fits your gaming style. It doesnt mean that its the best choice for every gamer though.



Nem said:
kabamarutr said:
Nem said:
 


Trouble? Do you mean you are too lazy to go to the shop to resell your games? Cause theres no legal troubles if thats what you meant.

About length yeah, Uncharted 3, GoW3 are about 10 hours long, but for example Assassins Creed, dozens of hours, GTA dozens, Skyrim hundreads, Fallout hundreads, JRPG's dozens, driving games dozens, mass effect dozens, etc.


Where I live, shops take any game back for 5$, be it AAA or an annual sports game that has no value once the year has come to pass.

How many out of those games have you seen offered by PS+? Them being the exception on the norm, most games take a couple of days to finish. Thus, completing a circle to the argument, they are then rendered virtually garbage.

So! I prefer not having to pay much for a 10-12 hour (have it your way) game which I will complete in 2-3 days and not touch again. PS+ is the ideal option for me - and many other it seems - as it offers me enough games to let me get by the month , while I have paid a single games worth 50$. I want need DmC again after I've finished it. Nor Hitman, Deus Ex, AC III, U3, etc etc.


I'm sure its good for you, but you are not getting anything "free". And, i still say you only buy a certain type of game for you to say games are that short, unless you play them 24/7. Not even Uncharted or GoW are games i finish in 2 to 3 days. I guess it depends on the kind of marathons one does.

I hear PS+ defenders talk about it like its incredible and everyone should jump on it, completely disregarding that there are different styles of gamers. PS+ does not fit my gaming style and its also not cheaper. I buy games on the cheap one year after they come out. If i dont think i want to keep them i get about half of tham investment back. Not only that, but i choose wich games i get. Something that doesnt happen with PS+ (Sony chooses for you).

Tel me, do you even finish all the PS+ games you get? I know the answer, but i want to make it obvious to you. Good that it fits your gaming style. It doesnt mean that its the best choice for every gamer though.

None can say that your choice is bad (or good, for that matter). It's your choice and it's as valid as anyone's. 

Well, I'm not getting anythin free. I've payed 50$ a year for it. That's some money, none can deny that. As for GoW, I've completed it in too afternoons and bashed it to no end in fora and suchlike.

Now, to answer your question, I have not finished each and every plus game. I don't have the time and not all games suit my taste. BUT, I haven't bought any other game either for a long time. I think the last one was Dark Souls.

Bottom line is, saying PS+ is quintessencial to all PS owners is not correct. There are people who want games absent to +, collectors, day-one buyers etc.



This, I stole from grandpa...It's called soap.

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RawrJa said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsoft owes their community so much more for all the nickel and diming.

I doubt the MS community even cares.


Or we just don't have an issue with self entitlement?

They don't "owe" us anything.



ironmanDX said:
RawrJa said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsoft owes their community so much more for all the nickel and diming.

I doubt the MS community even cares.


Or we just don't have an issue with self entitlement?

They don't "owe" us anything.

You need to learn from us Sony fanboys man! See where our whining and self entitlement issue got us? Bioshock Inifnite, DMC, Metro Last Light! Man the list is longer than my e-peen. (At trust me it is very long, longer that Ken Levine's ego)

I mean really! Just yesterday I got a coupon on PSN+ for a free blowjob from Andrew House! And Cerney has promise to come to my house tomorrow and upgrade my PS4 HD personally with a 1GB SSD.

Just listen to yourself! All that self respect and integrity.

What does it give you? Nothing! For your own sake you better grow up and learn to live in the real world where whinny self entitle bitches get everything and good guys finish last.

OT: Microsoft needs to do more for its userbase! Yea baby!






Pemalite said:
Cthulhu said:
selnor1983 said:
IMO Xbox Gold Games starts on The One in Summer 2014? Meaning the first games are only 6 moths old. So on the Xbox One at least this program imo is far better than PSN+ as users will be getting 2 games a month still worth £25 each brand new and TO KEEP, NOT Rent.

On 360 it started really late, and so we got games worth nothing and already played. But now we get games up to date and still worth money brand new.

IMO Ill take a free copy of DR3 in June to keep and then say Crimson Dragon? Thankyou Microsoft for saving me £50/month on games I would have waited longer to purchase.

WoW great move from MS, the saved you imaginary money on those imaginary june 2014 offers

Now look what i got from PSN+ and calculate how much real money SONY saved me. Now tell me...but...but those are just rentals.

People keep saying how much money they "save" buy buying into Xbox Live and PSN+.

Here is the kicker. You don't save money, you spend it to get that, thus you saved nothing, what counts is the intrinsic value that you may find in such a pay wall and what is essentially DRM.

I wish Microsoft and Sony felt more threatened by Steam, at-least on Steam it's free to use and you get free games.

OMG! im PSN+ user from day one and you tell me i dont have saved money? hahahhhahhahhhahahhhaha you are so funny :D



Cthulhu said:
Pemalite said:
Cthulhu said:
selnor1983 said:
IMO Xbox Gold Games starts on The One in Summer 2014? Meaning the first games are only 6 moths old. So on the Xbox One at least this program imo is far better than PSN+ as users will be getting 2 games a month still worth £25 each brand new and TO KEEP, NOT Rent.

On 360 it started really late, and so we got games worth nothing and already played. But now we get games up to date and still worth money brand new.

IMO Ill take a free copy of DR3 in June to keep and then say Crimson Dragon? Thankyou Microsoft for saving me £50/month on games I would have waited longer to purchase.

WoW great move from MS, the saved you imaginary money on those imaginary june 2014 offers

Now look what i got from PSN+ and calculate how much real money SONY saved me. Now tell me...but...but those are just rentals.

People keep saying how much money they "save" buy buying into Xbox Live and PSN+.

Here is the kicker. You don't save money, you spend it to get that, thus you saved nothing, what counts is the intrinsic value that you may find in such a pay wall and what is essentially DRM.

I wish Microsoft and Sony felt more threatened by Steam, at-least on Steam it's free to use and you get free games.

OMG! im PSN+ user from day one and you tell me i dont have saved money? hahahhhahhahhhahahhhaha you are so funny :D


You're missing the point if you think otherwise.




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Pemalite said:
Cthulhu said:
Pemalite said:
Cthulhu said:
selnor1983 said:
IMO Xbox Gold Games starts on The One in Summer 2014? Meaning the first games are only 6 moths old. So on the Xbox One at least this program imo is far better than PSN+ as users will be getting 2 games a month still worth £25 each brand new and TO KEEP, NOT Rent.

On 360 it started really late, and so we got games worth nothing and already played. But now we get games up to date and still worth money brand new.

IMO Ill take a free copy of DR3 in June to keep and then say Crimson Dragon? Thankyou Microsoft for saving me £50/month on games I would have waited longer to purchase.

WoW great move from MS, the saved you imaginary money on those imaginary june 2014 offers

Now look what i got from PSN+ and calculate how much real money SONY saved me. Now tell me...but...but those are just rentals.

People keep saying how much money they "save" buy buying into Xbox Live and PSN+.

Here is the kicker. You don't save money, you spend it to get that, thus you saved nothing, what counts is the intrinsic value that you may find in such a pay wall and what is essentially DRM.

I wish Microsoft and Sony felt more threatened by Steam, at-least on Steam it's free to use and you get free games.

OMG! im PSN+ user from day one and you tell me i dont have saved money? hahahhhahhahhhahahhhaha you are so funny :D


You're missing the point if you think otherwise.

The point is that i have over 130 games in my hard drive