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Ganoncrotch on 23 January 2014
d21lewis said:
If your console's big title is also available on PC, nobody needs your console because EVERYBODY has a high powered gaming PC.

If my console runs a game with better resolution/fps than your console, it's worth bragging about because NOBODY has a high powered gaming PC.

lol'd

and gotta agree about this thread btw, hats off to Burninmylight at putting this together, very funny thread.

 

To the few people tho who are attacking very direct things that 1 person has done to you in here tho guys, this is very clearly a light hearted joke thread. If you got angry beef with someone this isn't the way to vent that. For those thinking certain points are aimed at them which are pretty general things I think there isn't many members who've posted on here who've not used anywhere up to 20 points from the OP in a single disscussion now :D would be lying if I hadn't said at least a few of um.



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Mummelmann on 23 January 2014
d21lewis said:
If your console's big title is also available on PC, nobody needs your console because EVERYBODY has a high powered gaming PC.

If my console runs a game with better resolution/fps than your console, it's worth bragging about because NOBODY has a high powered gaming PC.


Ain't this the goddamn truth.



burninmylight on 23 January 2014
Tiwaz said:
When someone gives you some arguments about something you disagree with, you only focus on the weakest of their arguments and try everything to tear it down. Be sure to ignore all other relevant information.

When you dislike a console, the company behind said console will inevitably drop out of the gaming market or be bought by the company you like within the next 2 years.


The first one is covered in what is currently 16.3 (the order is subject to change), but the second definitely goes in.

chapset said:

-My company of choice just had some decent numbers during the holidays, must be a comeback!!!!!
-Last year my console of choice sold like shit, despite having some big titles on it but this year it will sell 3X that because I has some big titles also this year
-We are comparing home console sales, better bring an handheld to the argument
-We are comparing home console sales, better talk about profit
-We are talking about home console sales this gen, better bring out last gen sales
-Third party games suck ass,they are just shooters and grey brown, while my console of choice got some whimsical amazing games with colors and peace
-I only buy my console of choice of first party games, WHY THE FUCK WON'T THIRD PARTIES SUPPORT MY CONSOLE OF CHOICE!!!

-My console of choice developers made something that was already available somewhere else, How innovative of them!!!!

-Internet capabilities will up my console of choice power by 600%

-Paying for online gaming is dumb lol, unless I am paying also

-Look at that stack of my console of choice available at any major retailers that proves my console of choice is doing better than yours.

-No console ever sold as bad as my console of choice but if I wish enough the competition might start doing just as bad

-I hope the Industry collapse

-Hahaha, you are winning the argument, while I am not even mad, I better switch the conversation about your bad syntax or I might just say '' enjoy argumenting on the Interwebs while I enjoy games on my console of choice''

-HYPE, HYPE,HYPE a game to death, when the game fails to deliver complain about the lack of hype for that said game.

-Somebody posted something bad about my company of choice, those damn Sony fanboys!!

Everything in bold has either been covered already or is an obvious attack on one fanbase. We're going for more general things that can apply to any user or fanbase. Some folks thought this was meant to be a Sony/Vita bashing thread at first, but I assure you that is not the case. The only one that is console-specific is the one about Wii U doom threads, because let's be honest, the Wii U gets a ton of doom threads (but that should change now that a certain bread loving lad is gone). If the Vita got daily doom threads, I'd include it too.

Scizor_99 said:
If a system is powerful and isn't selling well, you shouldn't say anything negative about its sales or games lineup. If you do, you are being a "hater". If system is NOT powerful and isn't selling well, it's natural to complain about its sales and games lineup, and perfectly fine if you do so excessively. If you don't, you are being a "fanboy".

Also too specific, sorry.



burninmylight on 24 January 2014
kupomogli said:
burninmylight said:

1.  "Unless adding irrefutable data, you're required to post the word opinion somewhere in your post, otherwise someone who doesn't agree will quote you and comment "in your opinion."

This one falls into a grey area. It really depends on the context of what is being written. Generally, it's considered bad journalism to inject news with opinion (however, it is OK to use hard data to back up a column or opinion piece), but this unfortunately happens so often in video games journalism that we've just become accustomed to roll with it. So part of me wants to add this one, and part of me doesn't. I guess the thing hold me back are the folks that try to treat their opinions as facts. I'd like to get some other people to way in on this.

2.  "Someone may still quote and comment "in your opinion" even when your post has it stated."

Will add.

3.  " Even if 99% of the world will agree, a relative truth, even though a highly regarded opinion, will incite an argument if claimed as fact with some members."

I want to add it, but could you elaborate or provide an example? I want to be sure I understand what you mean.

" People will keep the argument going until the other person gets tired of replying to their bs and quits responding.  The one who responds last is the winner apparently."

Awesome, and will definitely be added.

1.  On this one I don't mean journalists.  I mean in forums.  Just about everything you post in a forum is going to be an opinion of yours.  You're not going to be placing facts everywhere, but it's too common that people will quote your post, stating "in your opinion."  Like you're trying to pass your opinion off as fact.

Example.

Person 1.  Persona 4 is amazing, best SMT game. 

Person 2:  It's a good game, but SMT Nocturne is better.

Person 1:  "It's a good game, but SMT Nocturne is better."  In your opinion.

Everything posted there is opinion, but because person 2 disagreed with person 1, person 1 comes back with an "in your opinion" response.  No fucking duh it's my opinion.  Just like the first statement is stating one game is better than another, but person 2 didn't say "in your opinion."  It's implied that everything is opinion and that person 2 just doesn't agree and his opinion differs.

2.  How you were doing like 1. then 1a, 1b, etc.  This would be one of those.  I've actually made a forum post where I said "in my opinion, blah blah blah, etc" and I had someone reply to me "in your opinion."  That's how bad it is.  People will skim through, see something that they don't agree with, and without reading the rest, make that statement.  If 1.  is say #50, then 2.  would be #50a.

3.  Relativity is truth in your opinion, relative truth would be an opinion of yours or a majority.  Example would be, the Vita has no games, or the Vita analog sticks are too close to the buttons where you can't help but touch it while playing an action oriented game.  For the whole Vita analog stick thing, I stated it as a fact, since it's a commonly mentioned opinion, back when I made the thread PSP has a better design than Vita.  Basically claiming a fact that isn't 100% fact, like 2+2=4 people will argue.  It was me basically using the terminology a little bit loosely but there was atleast one person offended by my misuse of the word.  If he agreed with me though I guarantee it wouldn't have been an issue.  You don't have to add 3.

You can edit them to make them sound better.  Maybe the way I stated the first one for example sounded akward which is why you were confused on what I meant.

I got it now. Thanks for your contributions! I think I'll reword #3 slightly, but keep the same idea. It is definitely VGChartz logic.



Viper1 on 24 January 2014

A single chink in your console armor means that somehow the bloody, bruised and busted console is going to rise up, kill you and stand triumphant.



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kirby007 on 26 January 2014

that finished posts covers 99% of the threads an posts nowlol



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Kaizar on 27 January 2014

Sounds like someone created NEOGAF 2000 or something.



Viper1 on 14 February 2014

Unless a game is pushing every possible post processing effect, rendered in super high resolutions and anti-aliased 16 times over, it's ugly.



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Kaizar on 19 February 2014
Viper1 said:
Unless a game is pushing every possible post processing effect, rendered in super high resolutions and anti-aliased 16 times over, it's ugly.


Well Nintendo 3DS with the 3D on is more anti-aliasing then an IMAX TV (8K HD TV), and if by higher resolution you mean better image quality on screen then the Nintendo 3DS with the 3D ON definitely has that from clearity to vividness.

Maybe we should just play all games in 3D on any and every system. You can convert 2D into 3D with the right 3D TV.



Viper1 on 19 February 2014
Kaizar said:
Viper1 said:
Unless a game is pushing every possible post processing effect, rendered in super high resolutions and anti-aliased 16 times over, it's ugly.


Well Nintendo 3DS with the 3D on is more anti-aliasing then an IMAX TV (8K HD TV), and if by higher resolution you mean better image quality on screen then the Nintendo 3DS with the 3D ON definitely has that from clearity to vividness.

Maybe we should just play all games in 3D on any and every system. You can convert 2D into 3D with the right 3D TV.

Not sure I follow you here.  I was making fun of the fact that many members when comaprign 2 games will call the other one ugly if it's missing an effect, resolution is lower or isn't anti-aliased.  It's as though they have no range.  Either it's the best looking whatever possible or it's ugly.



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