VGChartz logic

[burninmylight]

kupomogli said:

burninmylight said:

1.  "Unless adding irrefutable data, you're required to post the word opinion somewhere in your post, otherwise someone who doesn't agree will quote you and comment "in your opinion."

This one falls into a grey area. It really depends on the context of what is being written. Generally, it's considered bad journalism to inject news with opinion (however, it is OK to use hard data to back up a column or opinion piece), but this unfortunately happens so often in video games journalism that we've just become accustomed to roll with it. So part of me wants to add this one, and part of me doesn't. I guess the thing hold me back are the folks that try to treat their opinions as facts. I'd like to get some other people to way in on this.

2.  "Someone may still quote and comment "in your opinion" even when your post has it stated."

Will add.

3.  " Even if 99% of the world will agree, a relative truth, even though a highly regarded opinion, will incite an argument if claimed as fact with some members."

I want to add it, but could you elaborate or provide an example? I want to be sure I understand what you mean.

" People will keep the argument going until the other person gets tired of replying to their bs and quits responding.  The one who responds last is the winner apparently."

Awesome, and will definitely be added.

1.  On this one I don't mean journalists.  I mean in forums.  Just about everything you post in a forum is going to be an opinion of yours.  You're not going to be placing facts everywhere, but it's too common that people will quote your post, stating "in your opinion."  Like you're trying to pass your opinion off as fact.

Example.

Person 1.  Persona 4 is amazing, best SMT game. 

Person 2:  It's a good game, but SMT Nocturne is better.

Person 1:  "It's a good game, but SMT Nocturne is better."  In your opinion.

Everything posted there is opinion, but because person 2 disagreed with person 1, person 1 comes back with an "in your opinion" response.  No fucking duh it's my opinion.  Just like the first statement is stating one game is better than another, but person 2 didn't say "in your opinion."  It's implied that everything is opinion and that person 2 just doesn't agree and his opinion differs.

2.  How you were doing like 1. then 1a, 1b, etc.  This would be one of those.  I've actually made a forum post where I said "in my opinion, blah blah blah, etc" and I had someone reply to me "in your opinion."  That's how bad it is.  People will skim through, see something that they don't agree with, and without reading the rest, make that statement.  If 1.  is say #50, then 2.  would be #50a.

3.  Relativity is truth in your opinion, relative truth would be an opinion of yours or a majority.  Example would be, the Vita has no games, or the Vita analog sticks are too close to the buttons where you can't help but touch it while playing an action oriented game.  For the whole Vita analog stick thing, I stated it as a fact, since it's a commonly mentioned opinion, back when I made the thread PSP has a better design than Vita.  Basically claiming a fact that isn't 100% fact, like 2+2=4 people will argue.  It was me basically using the terminology a little bit loosely but there was atleast one person offended by my misuse of the word.  If he agreed with me though I guarantee it wouldn't have been an issue.  You don't have to add 3.

You can edit them to make them sound better.  Maybe the way I stated the first one for example sounded akward which is why you were confused on what I meant.

I got it now. Thanks for your contributions! I think I'll reword #3 slightly, but keep the same idea. It is definitely VGChartz logic.