It's only logical, I mean how could you be a fan of a console? The reason to love a console is because it plays your favourite games right? Having extra features is always nice but the main appeal is games!

So Sony fans should be perfectly fine if Sony's games where on a Nintendo console! Or Microsoft fans having Halo on other consoles!

That's irrelivant to what I'm saying. The entire racing genre on Playstation/Xbox isn't looking very successful. Yet Gran Turismo sales have always been phenomenal despite the apparent weakness of that genre. So in the end of the day, name and quality play a very important role.

Also, Nintendo's massive fanbase don't own a Wii U anyway. If Nintendo goes third party and continues making excellent games, I'm sure it will attract a lot of fans into buying XB1/PS4. You speak as if Nintendo's fanbase will suddenly "disappear" if they leave the console business.

In a sense, going third party should accelerate Nintendo's sales because they will theoretically have access to all of the big 3's fanbases. Of course unless they screw up like Sega did.

Having said that, I don't want them to go third party because I feel that may cause them to lose that "passion" of making great games.

Hate? purely logic, but hey if it gets you out of addressing the points i raised then go for it.

But, for the sake of argument, lets pick apart the post I made, to show how much I hate Nintendo shall we?

Huh weird, it almost sounds like I am saying comparing a mediocre Sonic games sales performance to a Nintendo games sales performance isnt logical or fair... hell one might even consider that me saying "nintendo games sell better than sonic games", but hey, that would go against the nintendo hater group you thoughtfully swept me in to, right?

The real gem of this all however, is as a WiiU, Wii, DS, DSi, GB, GBC, GBM, GBA, GC and 3DS owner, I'm being told by someone that hasn't yet gone out and bought himself a WiiU, That my posts are ignored because I hate Nintendo, beautiful, just beautiful.

The big flaw here is that fans of Nintendo games would go where their games go...

They're not fans of Nintendo consoles, but their games.

That's irrelivant to what I'm saying. The entire racing genre on Playstation/Xbox isn't looking very successful. Yet Gran Turismo sales have always been phenomenal despite the apparent weakness of that genre. So in the end of the day, name and quality play a very important role.

Also, Nintendo's massive fanbase don't own a Wii U anyway. If Nintendo goes third party and continues making excellent games, I'm sure it will attract a lot of fans into buying XB1/PS4. You speak as if Nintendo's fanbase will suddenly "disappear" if they leave the console business.

In a sense, going third party should accelerate Nintendo's sales because they will theoretically have access to all of the big 3's fanbases. Of course unless they screw up like Sega did.

Having said that, I don't want them to go third party because I feel that may cause them to lose that "passion" of making great games.

Players migrate to the systems where the games are they would like to play. If they want to play Nintendo games and there are no Nintendo consoles, they will move there. You could argue that they will move to mobile instead but that will happen regardless of Nintendo Hardware.

There will not be a long run for Nintendo if they don't sell enough consoles to move their games. I'm not sure about the next console generation but if MS and Sony hit this one out of the park then I don't see any chance for a successful Nintendo console ever again. Since the PS1 Nintendo is losing and the Wii is a one time success that will never repeat itself. And while Nintendo is struggling to even bring the most basic franchises to their consoles, MS and Sony are building up new and powerful franchises trhat will soon rival the ones on Nintendo in quantity and quality.

If Nintendo doesn't act soon there might not be enough crowd left to buy their games. Especially if it is on a closed system that nobody wants.

None of those games are similar to the ones Nintendo makes though :O

@OT - I think the yield of sales would increase if Nintendo did go third party :o - cause mainly the only reason why people dont play Nintendo games is because they dont buy Nintendo systems but their competitor systems instead.

1) Since Nintendo game fans would have nowhere else to turn for Nintendo games, the sales would still be there, and any losses of sales because of the move would be picked up by Xbox and PlayStation fans, if you think otherwise you're foolish and.. ever so slightly delusional

Nintendo fans wants cheap HW, and $400-$500 isn't what they're looking for.

2) Not having to develop a new console would take a large portion of that loss away, not having to pay the workers and maintanence of the factories they own, also takes from the loss, the factories could also be sold, further detracting from that loss to a point where they are actually better off.

That's a profit in the short term, kind of like when Sony sold off their HQ's...

3) A lot of Nintendos smaller franchises don't sell well regardless, or are you going to tell me Pikmin 3 is a runaway success that had people falling over themselves to buy a WiiU.

And these franchises would possibly sell even less, when they would have to sell MORE to simply be just as profitable as they are now. And that's another reason why they shouldn't go 3rd party.

4) Why would they need to advertise any more than they already do?, just because the game releases on another console does not mean that it suddenly has new games to contend with, those games were always there, and frankly, if sales for mario titles declined because other games existed on the SAME console, then it would just go to show that the brand really isnt as strong as Nintendo fans believe, and were only seeing artificial numbers fueled by the lack of competition on their own platform.

Whether or not Mario is or isn't as strong a brand as Nintendo fans thinks is besides the point. The point is sales and profits. If Mario games would decline in sales because of more competition, the more reason for Nintendo to NOT go 3rd party.

Everything else is just nonsenical poorly thought out padding to what is essentially a poor argument against Nintendo becoming third party.

You would think that, wouldn't you?