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Kresnik said:

By the hammer of Thor...

Seriously, though, as a number of people have already pointed out, what made this situation sososo worse is the drastic-ness of this reduction. 9m -> 2.8m is admitting that you were almost as wrong as you could possibly be and didn't see it - or were too ignorant to admit it - until the last possible moment. And that's definitely not a good position to be in. A series of less drastic cut backs over the past 3 financial reports would've made this situation slightly more tolerable. People like me would still mock him for being so off the mark to begin with but at least it would show he realised before now what dire straights the Wii-U is in.

The projected loss is surprising though. I'd have thought they would be able to maintain profitability through this, especially with some big software hits from the 3DS and still relatively decent sales from that.

I don't know what to think about removing Iwata. Personally, I like and dislike a great number of things about the guy, probably in equal measure on both. He does a hell of a lot of good and a hell of a lot of bad. I think I'd like to see what someone else could do at the helm, though.

These new forecasts will likely be a good indicator for whether or not Nintendo has taken its head out of the sand.

Let's recall that they updated numbers last year after their Q3 as well (so Jan 30th, even closer to the end of the fiscal year than now).  At that time they forecasted a 20 billion Yen loss in Operating income, 15m 3DS, and 4m Wii U.  The actual numbers two months later were a 36.4 billion Yen loss, 13.95m 3DS, and 3.45m Wii U.

If a similar thing happens this year, then it would seem that they have learned nothing.  However, the fact that they specifically released these revisions and didn't tack them onto their Q3 numbers suggests to me that they might be seeing reality.  I expect them to probably hit or maybe even slightly beat these numbers.



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How is Nintendo going to avoid these losses next year? 3DS is going to be down YOY, and the WiiU isn't going to move more than 6m units. I hope they have a good strategy.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Do they really expect only 2.8 million Wii Us in one full year? That's less than even the haters had hoped for. It's impossible for any of the big 3 to sell 2.8 million in one year.



TheLastStarFighter said:

Wow, this is a big deal. Not because the loss is so big (Nintendo could post losses like this for the next 50 years and still be around) but because this a year Nintendo should be raking it in. 3DS should be in its peak for revenue and Wii U is in year 2. But Wii U bombed this year and it's dragging the business down. For better or worse, I expect big changes. I only hope they are for the better.

As far as Iwata goes, I think he's done a fairly good job. But he's failed on a couple fronts, the single biggest one being sitting on cash. They should have purchased several AAA studios - or started them - 3 years ago and had them focus on HD software development. They have also missed on the trend of the industry right now somewhat, messing up the Wii U design a little (though the tablet idea had its heart in the right place). The botched Wii U launch, between design, lack of preparation, lack of software, poor software choice, terrible marketing... is a major error. Nintendo needs the US to be a major market, and it really seems like they should have pumped some money into NoA, allowing it to pick up some studios, do better marketing, buy some exclusives or other initiatives to battle Sony and MS in this market.

With regards to the bolded, not really. These losses are a lot more damaging than I think people realize.

As for the rest, I definitely agree. Big changes have to be in the pipeline.



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is it me or does it feel like the 3ds peaked kinda early



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oniyide said:
is it me or does it feel like the 3ds peaked kinda early

That's pretty obvious



ryuzaki57 said:
oniyide said:
is it me or does it feel like the 3ds peaked kinda early

That's pretty obvious

ok just making sure. thats kinda messed up a bit.



The 3DS didn't really peak early, it's just in a much different market today.

This has happened before but even this past month I was on vacation and was flying through 4 or 5 different major airports, and I saw 2 3DS systems with kids and literally hundreds of kids playing on their parents iPad or the parents themselves playing on their iPad/iPhone/Galaxy/etc. etc. etc. etc.



Soundwave said:
The 3DS didn't really peak early, it's just in a much different market today.

This has happened before but even this past month I was on vacation and was flying through 4 or 5 different major airports, and I saw 2 3DS systems with kids and literally hundreds of kids playing on their parents iPad or the parents themselves playing on their iPad/iPhone/Galaxy/etc. etc. etc. etc.


ok...i dont see how that means it HASNT peaked early. Unless you are expecting it to do better this year than the last



Depressing numbers. I know there is still MK8 and Smash Bros for WiiU, but I really can't see the platform making a drastic turn around.



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