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DerNebel said:
sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
Someone tell me cause I don't feel like reading through the posts.

How many Sony fans played the worldwide card > America card? Because this happens every time Sony loses a NPD. I bet Ethomaz played the "supply" card and took random pictures of X1's in a store.


Does it not go both ways, how many MS fans will yell NDp dec whilel losing world wide.  Its championing winning a small battle while losing the war, how smart is that.

And PS4 shortages are legit, it is what it is.  

Well it makes more sense because most posters on Vgchartz live in the US/Canada. So there is nothing wrong with celebrating a victory where you live.

Yet we have American Sony fans championing PS3 sales in France/Spain, etc. Unless you have European citizenship in those countries, celebrating foreign victories makes far less sense when your own backyard is losing.

We also have european Xbox fans championing the NPD numbers so there's that.

UK colonized America so its chill. Americans didn't colonize the UK or France. History is on our side ;)



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BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
 

Well it makes more sense because most posters on Vgchartz live in the US/Canada. So there is nothing wrong with celebrating a victory where you live.

Yet we have American Sony fans championing PS4 sales in France/Spain, etc. Unless you have European citizenship in those countries, celebrating foreign victories makes far less sense when your own backyard is losing.

X1 getting worked in Europe will mean 3rd partys favor it.  Which will mean PS4 gets better versions and more better addons timed exclusivity and so on.

So celelbratin a tiny win is pointless when losing ww affects your gaming, or do you not care Bungie is favoring PS and many devs are likely to follow.

K that's nice. Just saying a American celebrating a American win makes sense. American celebrating a win in France = not so much.

Celebrating a Superball win means what whenl compared to the guy celebrating winning the World Cup.

Cool story. Celebrate where you live > celebrating where you don't (while losing where you do)



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sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
 

Well it makes more sense because most posters on Vgchartz live in the US/Canada. So there is nothing wrong with celebrating a victory where you live.

Yet we have American Sony fans championing PS4 sales in France/Spain, etc. Unless you have European citizenship in those countries, celebrating foreign victories makes far less sense when your own backyard is losing.

X1 getting worked in Europe will mean 3rd partys favor it.  Which will mean PS4 gets better versions and more better addons timed exclusivity and so on.

So celelbratin a tiny win is pointless when losing ww affects your gaming, or do you not care Bungie is favoring PS and many devs are likely to follow.

K that's nice. Just saying a American celebrating a American win makes sense. American celebrating a win in France = not so much.

Celebrating a Superball win means what whenl compared to the guy celebrating winning the World Cup.

Cool story. Celebrate where you live > celebrating where you don't (while losing where you do)

You go celebrate a corporation wining sales for a month in one market.

Ill go enjoy my games lol.



BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
 

Cool story. Celebrate where you live > celebrating where you don't (while losing where you do)

You go celebrate a corporation wining sales for a month in one market.

Ill go enjoy my games lol.

I am glad you applied successfully for your passport :)

Ouch, nice self-own. Since the best exclusive PS4 has is a FPS which COD or BF4 are better anyway. Clearly people buying PS4 are buying it for the console and not the games (yet). I can't enjoy games too??? (aww shucks)



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sales2099 said:
DerNebel said:

We also have european Xbox fans championing the NPD numbers so there's that.

UK colonized America so its chill. Americans didn't colonize the UK or France. History is on our side ;)

"Cool story. Celebrate where you live > celebrating where you don't (while losing where you do)", you're kinda contradicting yourself here ;)

Also it's not only users from the UK

 



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DerNebel said:
sales2099 said:
DerNebel said:

We also have european Xbox fans championing the NPD numbers so there's that.

UK colonized America so its chill. Americans didn't colonize the UK or France. History is on our side ;)

"Cool story. Celebrate where you live > celebrating where you don't (while losing where you do)", you're kinda contradicting yourself here ;)

Also it's not only users from the UK

 

Well I was joking, since America is the UK's "spiritual home" or "former home" :P. Also the cultures really do borrow from eachother.

But if you choose to venture outside UK, then you are talking about a very, very, small niche on Vgchartz. Most users here are from english speaking countries, but again mostly NA. nm



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ethomaz said:

GAF Software Compilation (thanks @shinra-bansho)

Software compilation:

Wii
Just Dance 2014 >800K ~600k over

Wii U
Lego City Undercover - 242K
Pikmin 3 - 210K 60k over
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - 93K
Rayman Legends - 88K
Sonic: Lost World - 82K
The Wonderful 101 - 49K
Game & Wario - 36K
Resident Evil: Revelations - 16K

PS3
The Last of Us - 1473K 100k over
Call of Duty: Ghosts <800K (Dec only ?)
God of War: Ascension - 783K 90k over
Kingdom Hearts 1.5HD - 438K
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch - 329K 60k over
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time - 208K
Beyond: Two Souls - 202K 100k over
Gran Turismo 6 <180K  ~200k over
Tales of Xillia - 156K ~60k over
Resident Evil: Revelations - 53K
Rayman Legends - 30K
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F - 16K

PS4
Call of Duty: Ghosts >800K
Battlefield 4 - between 550K and 600K ~100k over
Assassin's Creed 4 - between 500K and 550K
NBA 2K14 - between 400K and 450K
Killzone Shadowfall - between 400K and 450K ~60k+ over
Madden NFL 25 - between 350K and 400K
Need for Speed - between 250K and 300K
FIFA 14 - between 200K and 250K
Knack - between 150K and 200K
Lego Marvel Superheroes - between

Xbox 360
Minecraft - 1862K 300k under
Gears of War: Judgement - 764K
Resident Evil: Revelations - 55K
Rayman Legends - 42K

Xbox One
Call of Duty: Ghosts - between 800K and 900K
Battlefield 4 - between 550K and 650K
Dead Rising 3 - 526K  160k under
Forze Motorsport 5 - 457K
Ryse - 431K 70k under
Madden NFL 25 - between 350K and 400K 70k+ under
Assassin's Creed 4 - between 350K and 400K
NBA 2K14 - between 200K and 350K
FIFA 14 - between 150K and 200K
Need for Speed - between 100K and 150K
Lego Marvel Superheroes - between 100K and 150K
Just Dance 2014 - between 100K and 150K

Chose to only mention tracking errors starting at 60k. Mostly pretty good tracking. Unless ioi already adjusted the numbers :P



sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
 

Cool story. Celebrate where you live > celebrating where you don't (while losing where you do)

You go celebrate a corporation wining sales for a month in one market.

Ill go enjoy my games lol.

I am glad you applied successfully for your passport :)

Ouch, nice self-own. Since the best exclusive PS4 has is a FPS which COD or BF4 are better anyway. Clearly people buying PS4 are buying it for the console and not the games (yet). I can't enjoy games too??? (aww shucks)

I actually do have a Euro passport, and a Canadien one.  Its a big big world not just murica.

Cool COD, they one that is better on PS4 then X1 nice.  Are you playing on a crt, hey maybe next X1 COD will do 1080p.



sales2099 said:
Someone tell me cause I don't feel like reading through the posts.

How many Sony fans played the worldwide card > America card? Because this happens every time Sony loses a NPD. I bet Ethomaz played the "supply" card and took random pictures of X1's in a store.


You're good. A fair few, but surprisingly people focused on MS actually lying about how many units they sold. 

And it was on the second page of 50 the picture of XOnes from Ethomaz I do believe.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

It's going to be interesting seeing Nintendo and Sony forecast the 14'-15' year. I don't buy that PS3 is going to get particularly close to 100m anymore, it's going to be down by 50% in most markets in 2014-2015 after ending up around 85m or 86m shipped in the fiscal year, and Wii is going to end up right around 101m-102m. X360 will be down a ton too globally in 2014. PS3 should be at 90m ish in March 2015, 92m ish in March 2016, and then die out right around 93m. X360 will probably get to about 90m

The old systems will still be somewhat important - the Wii SW forecast for 13'-14', amidst all Nintendo's downgrades, was upped from 20m to 26m. PS3 will be bigger than PS4 in FY 14'-15' for SW even though PS4 will kick PS3's ass for HW, and I'm not fully convinced yet that Wii U sw will be bigger than Wii sw in 2014-2015, but it should probably be around 30m, with Wii sw around 10-15m. X360 software will remain much larger than X720 software in 2014-2015 as well.



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