Talal said:
supernihilist said:
Talal said:
supernihilist said:

I thought many of you would chose Future Gohan... He is just badass, and the strongest SSJ1
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This is based on?
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Future Gohan SSJ1 was stronger than the, albeit weaker than the present time, ANdroids individually. At least in the movie. If you go cannon then i would agree Future Gohan is not the strongest.
In the movie we see Gohan beating up Androids individually BEFORE he loses his arm. Even if those future Androids are a bit weaker than the presesnt tense ones, Gohan being stronger than them makes Future GOhan roughly on par with Vegeta SSJ1 when he faced N 18 in the present. Thats BEFORE he loses the arm.
Going fw in the story, Gohan recieves a Zenkai boost for his near death experience when losing the arm. so its safe to assume Future Gohan with one arm is stronger than Vegeta SJJ1 when he faced N18, which was the strongest SSJ1 in the Android saga before Cell.
I would put Future Gohan after the Zenkai in the power level of present Piccolo-Kami-sama, or even beyond since its showing traces of SSJ2 in the movie.
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After training in the hyperbolic time chamber they all were stronger than future Gohan if I remember right. I mean Goku was SSJ1 when he fought Cell.
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Yes you are right, but he wasnt a standard SSJ1 he was FullPower SSJ or Mastered SSJ if you prefer. Its a state of power similar to Super Trunks Ultimate SSJ transformation but that doesnt require extra muscles and big energy usage and negates the loss of speed.
I was refering to Android pre-Cell saga. When Vegeta turns SSJ1 and faces A18, and Trunks is already SSJ1 just as Goku. Vegeta is said to be the strongest SSJ1 but i think future Gohan is stronger.At least as shown in the especial OVA. He can beat the future androids one by one but they team up and just obliterate him. Even if you take into consideration that future androids are weaker than Z androids, i dont think they are that much weaker, just less focused on fighting. Future Gohan=Future A17/ Piccolo-Kami=A17. So future Gohan is nearly equal to Piccolo-Kami who is stronger than Cell and any present tense SSj1 at the time.
Future Gohan equals more or less Present tense A18 which clearly beat present tense Vegteta SSj1 who was the strongest SSJ1 at the time.
Of course if you go by Cannon Future Gohan is actually the weakest of the SSJ1, maybe on par with Goku and Trunks just when Goku arrives from Yadrat MAX. so all of this is just nonsense LOL.