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Netyaroze said:

In China there are about 200 Million people with EU-US-JP Standard income which can afford to buy consoles. But in EU+Japan+US its way more than 200 Million people on that level. China has a huge potential. And it can be a bigger market eventually (eventhough that would mean that everyone in china is on the level of EU/US/JP and the world economy is not even nearly big enough to feed such a demand, but right now its by far not as big as EU+US+JP combined. There are about 800 Million people on the same level in all 3 "countries" (EU is not a country) combined. China right now is 20%-25% of those three.  If really 300 Million Chinese would be on the level of say US that would mean the economy would be as big as US Economy which it is not.  Its about Germany+Japan size.

Yes you are right about this, because I never meant to say that the Chinese console market would be the biggest in the world, it won't and I agree with you.

But the potential for the future is there, no doubt about it. But like I said, there must be a more Chinese-style console for it to really sell in high volumes. Even if the PS4 would cost 300 €/$ here and the games would cost 30 at launch, it would hardly sell. It's just not a reasonable price for gaming. 

And I see that people keep saying that Xbox would sell better than PS and Nintendo. Your views on China are very strange to me, it abolutely won't sell better than PS. PlayStation has always been the best seller here and it also will be in the future. Just a week after the PS4 launch in the USA I could find PS4 imports at many places, but I still have not seen a single X1 anywhere. And people are telling me that in my country X1 would be the market leader? Dream on.

Korea and Japan is what we associate games with here. Korea for PC games and Japan for consoles games.

Release a console that is based on Android and can play android games. The hardware doesn't need to be very expensive and people would buy it, I can guarantee this. Or if Microsoft would be willing to create a second consle for the Chinese market that would allow us to play PC games on a cheap hardware in the livingroom, this could work too!



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At $99 and $149 Vita/TV tearing it up there. Cheap and accessible with a huge library of games. Majority of software sales are digital and it has yet to be hacked and both do have the capability of playing physical games for those whom can't download.



China's a huge market, significantly larger than the U.S and it's no secret.



wangjingwanjia said:
Netyaroze said:

In China there are about 200 Million people with EU-US-JP Standard income which can afford to buy consoles. But in EU+Japan+US its way more than 200 Million people on that level. China has a huge potential. And it can be a bigger market eventually (eventhough that would mean that everyone in china is on the level of EU/US/JP and the world economy is not even nearly big enough to feed such a demand, but right now its by far not as big as EU+US+JP combined. There are about 800 Million people on the same level in all 3 "countries" (EU is not a country) combined. China right now is 20%-25% of those three.  If really 300 Million Chinese would be on the level of say US that would mean the economy would be as big as US Economy which it is not.  Its about Germany+Japan size.

Yes you are right about this, because I never meant to say that the Chinese console market would be the biggest in the world, it won't and I agree with you.

But the potential for the future is there, no doubt about it. But like I said, there must be a more Chinese-style console for it to really sell in high volumes. Even if the PS4 would cost 300 €/$ here and the games would cost 30 at launch, it would hardly sell. It's just not a reasonable price for gaming. 

And I see that people keep saying that Xbox would sell better than PS and Nintendo. Your views on China are very strange to me, it abolutely won't sell better than PS. PlayStation has always been the best seller here and it also will be in the future. Just a week after the PS4 launch in the USA I could find PS4 imports at many places, but I still have not seen a single X1 anywhere. And people are telling me that in my country X1 would be the market leader? Dream on.

Korea and Japan is what we associate games with here. Korea for PC games and Japan for consoles games.

Release a console that is based on Android and can play android games. The hardware doesn't need to be very expensive and people would buy it, I can guarantee this. Or if Microsoft would be willing to create a second consle for the Chinese market that would allow us to play PC games on a cheap hardware in the livingroom, this could work too!

Is the Ouya available in China? Would that work? Oh I guess it's called the Tron http://www.slashgear.com/huaweis-tron-android-gaming-console-hands-on-with-chinas-answer-to-ouya-08312429/

A cheap steambox would work too you think? A Steambox with 2010 level hardware, plenty to run WoW and tons of older Steam games.

Anyway no wonder the Eedo CT510 doesn't work, $600 and expensive games.



No secret about it, China is gonna surpass NA and become biggest WW market for movies in the next decade.



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SvennoJ said:

Is the Ouya available in China? Would that work? Oh I guess it's called the Tron http://www.slashgear.com/huaweis-tron-android-gaming-console-hands-on-with-chinas-answer-to-ouya-08312429/

A cheap steambox would work too you think? A Steambox with 2010 level hardware, plenty to run WoW and tons of older Steam games.

Anyway no wonder the Eedo CT510 doesn't work, $600 and expensive games.

That console looks very interesting, but we know very little of it still. The price will most likely be aimed at around 100 €/$, like the English article says. But in Chinese media they also claim that the console will be able to play PS3, PC and NDS games, re-released for it. Probably ports or something, but still it sounds strange to me.

Also they have told nothing yet about the price of the games, this is the most important question. They know that if they have too high prices people will lose interest instantly, and if they prices are middle, it might work. But if the prices are very cheap it could sell very well.

Another question is which market they really are targeting, the western market + Japan, or China? To me it is still not clear.

Most Chinese people feel so-so about this console. Some like it and some don't like it.

A cheap Steambox sounds nice in itself, but I think that many people here already have tried it out, just download the SteamOS. But I have not heard much about it yet.



zarx said:

China's gaming market is huge it already one of the largest

 

Chinese gaming market tops $13 billion

Client-based PC games account for well over half of market as gaming revenues grow 38% year-over-year

China's gaming industry is growing faster than it has in years. According to a Games in Asia translation of a Chinese-language 17173 report, the country's trade group GPC tracked industry revenues for 2013 at 83.17 billion Chinese yuan ($13.75 billion USD), up 38 percent year-over-year.

As for how what types of games are responsible for that money, 64.5 percent of it ($8.87 billion) is coming from client-based PC games. Another 15 percent ($2.11 billion) is coming from browser-based games. Mobile gaming accounted for 13.5 percent of the market ($1.86 billion), with social games ($890 million) and console games (around $10 million) rounding out the bottom of the list.

The overall industry's 2013 growth rate is the largest since 2009, when Chinese gaming revenues jumped nearly 42 percent to 26.28 billion Chinese yuan ($4.3 billion). The amount of money staying in China is also growing, but not as fast as the industry as a whole. In 2013, domestically developed games brought in more than 57.3 percent of the country's gaming revenues.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-01-02-chinese-gaming-market-tops-USD13-billion?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=european-daily

 

Wheather consoles will ever take off in a big way IDK, but it aint a secret the market is huge and growing rapidly

for comparison Videogame revenue in the USA was $20.77b


As expected, consoles are tiny in China. Same for India. People make the incredibly erroneous assumption that; huge population = huge sales of any given product. Europe is also a pretty good example, with 2-2.5 times the population of the US, it's still a comparatively small market. We're also seeing that PC gaming is much bigger in Europe.

People who keep shouting about China and India becoming a deciding factor in the 8th gen of consoles know nothing about the composition of the global gaming market or its demographics.



http://www.gamesradar.com/china-just-lifted-console-bans-will-it-actually-matter/

Not much I think



Nothing secret about a billion people.