doesnt matter if it was jan 2008 or 2012, fact is NOW we can see where those PS2 people went. PS3 and 360 were expensive. WIi U isnt even close by a long shot so again where are these Wii people? cause the price is not keeping them away if you think that you are fooling yourself.

Im not putting anything on you i want info, it will do considerably better? whats considerably better? give me numbers. cause you and I might have a difference of what considerably means. I dont want you looking for more excuses when the system doesnt move that much when these games released, like you were doing for Rayman, Pikmin, Sonic, 3d world...and whatever game you thought would help WIi U

I take it you didn't even bother reading the post I linked you to. Bringing up the PS3 is relevant because some people were calling it "the next GameCube" because it was trending behind the GC for a couple of years in America and Japan. Sure, it never did quite as bad as the Wii U, and it was facing different problems than the Wii U. Still, the point remains that it's still too early to call. Almost all predictions that are based on sales from the first few weeks, months, or even the first year end up falling flat. You can't assume that because it had a weak performance for almost all of 2013 that it will necessarily continue to do poorly. Of course, there's no reason to assume it won't continue to do poorly, either. There's just no way of knowing. I think it can potentially sell over 30 million lifetime, while others think it will sell under 20 million. We have about the same chance of being right. Just like we saw an unprecedented drop in post-holiday sales in early 2013, we could also see an unprecedented comeback. It'll probably never come close to NES or even SNES numbers, but N64 numbers are still possible at this point. Surprise comebacks have happened before and they can happen again. Again, "can," not "will."

It does matter if it's 2008 or 2012, because adoption takes time. Wii U has barely been out a year. $299 is outside the casual and lower income gamer's buying range.

And I was right about Pikmin 3 and 3D World boosting sales. I never said Rayman or Sonic would have a big impact.

but systems have been released at MUCH higher prices and have done much better than what Wii U has been doing. So how do you explain that? price cant be that much of a factor, if PS3 360 xbox1 PS4 are more expensive and have done way better. The only logical conclusion is people really dont want Wii U no matter the price.

We must have a different definition of boost, I dont consider a small up tick and sales followed by the system dropping back to what it was doing prior anything significant, but you know what you gotta take it how you can get it I guess. I dont think 3d world did much, i would give most credit to the holidays and ill stick by that considering that WIi U dropped back down to sub 150k right after the holidays

Their problem is, the Wii U is targeting the kind of buyers who want to pay $250/$199 for a console. That's why Kart will only really have its full effect once it is joined by a price drop.

And Wii U at least has not dropped back to its abysmal Q2-Q3 2013 levels, nor should it in the foreseeable future.

I wouldn't count my chickens just yet, we're still in the january sales period with stores still running offers and people using up the vouchers/gift cards they received at christmas.

It wasn't a year long. It was four months long. There was Monster Hunter and Need for Speed in March, then Pikmin 3 in July/August, then Wonderful 101, Splinter Cell, Sonic, Wind Waker HD...

Was it a problematic lull? Yes. But a year long is a big exaggeration.