binary solo said:

AFAIK Sony never said it was 4.2 million to consumers. Unless they say "sold to consumers" then sold means shipped, and even in this environment of tight supply there is no way 4.2 million shipped on X date = 4.2 million in consumer hands on X date. There is always product in the retail channel. So if anything I think 4.1 is possibly a tad on the high side, given 100K distributed across 53 markets is a very small number indeed. If someone has Sony saying 4.2 million sold to consumers then it's a different story. However in terms of VGC USA vs actual, even if 4.2 million globally is correct how much of that alleged missing 100K is USA? Boils down to VGC and NPD having at most a 100K discrepancy, and probably less, which in the month of December amounts to about 12% of total sales. Given NPD isn't 100% accurate (but likely more accurate than VGC) a 12% difference between VGC and NPD for PS4 is not even worth a second thought. I'll worry about VGC being out when the difference is over 20%.

So for Xb one to be considerably lower than PS4 in the USA, NPD sales for Xb one will have to be a lot lower than VGC, there just isn't room to move for PS4. Actually PS4 supply problems makes VGC's PS4 job quite easy. The harder job is Xb one because it is less supply constrained. I can believe that VGC could be significantly over-estimating Xb one sales, after all VGC does have off months with the USA for every platform from time to time. And I expect launch year December is a hard one to estimate unless there is strong evidence of widespread supply constraints (like PS4). But VGC could have underestimated Xb one sales too. We'll see I guess.

Dark_Feanor said:

VGChartz shows sales ratio haven´t chance since Christmass. XOne sales fell the same as PS4s. 

There is no people inline outside every store in the world waiting for a PS4, the demand has fallen. People will wait for next games to launch or a price drop, a bundle or what ever. The shortages in NA are not for high demand, but for low supply.

You have been denaing the reality for two months. 

That's the point... VGC numbers right now are wrong... just wait.

And you have lines in US to buy PS4 yet... it is not about low supply because if Sony shipped 500k units in one week right now they will sell everything.

Demand is strong... the Xbone demand was not that big since release.

You are the only guy denying the reality since launch... all your "words" got wrong... the last one "Xbone will outsell PS4 in the first two weeks of January"... reallity... PS4 almost doubled the Xbone sales in the first week of January.

Xbone is starting to drop while PS4 not yet... the only thing holding PS4 sales is supply.

If you want to make claim then makes the one that will happen... not bullshit claims... for example... PS4 sales will ryse next week.... you can expect  something over 300k for the second week of January.

veritaz said:
Loving the conversation between you two. It's like 2 walls trying to push each other lol.

The difference is what I'm talking is supported by official numbers .