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gt6 is most likely undertracked just like gt5



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Carl2291 said:
ethomaz said:

Are you sure about that? It will be fun... wait just more four days.


No. Lets not wait four days. Show me the proof today.

Dont wait until NPD. Show me the proof. Show me your reasoning for attacking the site yet again, or Im seriously going to consider reporting you for breaking Rule 11 regarding site criticism.


You will wait until will die. Ethomaz won´t show any avidence or real data that maculate his fantasy world. 

He still belives XOnes has problems with production, and at the same time is floding the market with unsold consoles.

He belives MS lied about their numbers but Sony understimated their.

He is a lost cause.



ethomaz said:

Jan 16th you will know the December numbers in US... the January numbers you will know next month... Sony is restocking PS4 in US almost in dailly basis while Xbone is not selling like people here things... PS4 is outselling Xbone in US... Target for exemple received the biggest shipment for PS4 last week... Amazon shows PS4 way way ahead Xbone in 2014 (best selling videogame product).

BTW last chance for what?

1: VGChartz revised all decembers numbers,  in only a single week PS4 sales were above Xone, the week with the Amazon stock lasted two days and there were stock at GameStop, Wallmart and Target and others.

2: The other weeks we only get drop stocks at Amazon that last 1 or 5 minutes.

3: Xbox One is selling, whethe you like it or not. Right now there are 32K people playing BF4 on the PS4 and 31K on the XOne, PS3 40K and 360 36k. http://bf4stats.com/ 

4: Amazon bestsellers  points PS4 at first place and XOne close to 10th. Is that that far behind? Well, you can´t find any nor PS3, nor Wii, nor WiiU any place in the top 100th, the 360 is found at 51th. So, no last gen consoles are being sold or are they negletible?

Again, show us your numbers. Do you think the real situation is PS4 leading by 10 o 1? Would that make you happy? What if NPD show only a small advantage, a statistical tie, for the PS4, would you be mad?

We are still waiting for you fullfill your bet wit PS3 reaching 90mi last year, or GT6 reach 5mi, or GT5 reaching 20mi.



He has no numbers. The only reason he is going on about this is because NeoGaf posted a thread saying Target was supposed to get a large shipment of PS4's. The funny thing is he used that as his only "proof" for his stance.



Dark_Feanor said:
ethomaz said:

Jan 16th you will know the December numbers in US... the January numbers you will know next month... Sony is restocking PS4 in US almost in dailly basis while Xbone is not selling like people here things... PS4 is outselling Xbone in US... Target for exemple received the biggest shipment for PS4 last week... Amazon shows PS4 way way ahead Xbone in 2014 (best selling videogame product).

BTW last chance for what?

1: VGChartz revised all decembers numbers,  in only a single week PS4 sales were above Xone, the week with the Amazon stock lasted two days and there were stock at GameStop, Wallmart and Target and others.

2: The other weeks we only get drop stocks at Amazon that last 1 or 5 minutes.

3: Xbox One is selling, whethe you like it or not. Right now there are 32K people playing BF4 on the PS4 and 31K on the XOne, PS3 40K and 360 36k. http://bf4stats.com/ 

4: Amazon bestsellers  points PS4 at first place and XOne close to 10th. Is that that far behind? Well, you can´t find any nor PS3, nor Wii, nor WiiU any place in the top 100th, the 360 is found at 51th. So, no last gen consoles are being sold or are they negletible?

Again, show us your numbers. Do you think the real situation is PS4 leading by 10 o 1? Would that make you happy? What if NPD show only a small advantage, a statistical tie, for the PS4, would you be mad?

We are still waiting for you fullfill your bet wit PS3 reaching 90mi last year, or GT6 reach 5mi, or GT5 reaching 20mi.

When did he mention 10 to 1, the current situation really bothers you doesn't it?



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VGchart didnt finish to revise all december numbers, they are always trying to find where to put those 100k of PS4, surely waiting for NPD numbers. So like he said, just wait for NPD numbers ;)

In fact, PS4 is at first place and X1 to 12th... So yes, it's pretty far behind ...on amason

X1 is selling just as much as PS4 in US with PS4 sold out everywhere, this is not something you would want to speak highly of....



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

ethomaz said:

Carl2291 said:

No. Lets not wait four days. Show me the proof today.

Dont wait until NPD. Show me the proof. Show me your reasoning for attacking the site yet again, or Im seriously going to consider reporting you for breaking Rule 11 regarding site criticism.

What the difference...

Fell free to report me for anything... that won't change the numbers lol

If you want more... PS4 is winning in US... so report me... some crows will be served soon.

Well there's no way PS4 is selling more than VGC is saying, because VGC numbers are on the mark with Sony's PR, now that they've adjusted. So your claim is that Xb one has sold somewhat less than VGC is showing. Well there's a 50% likelihood that this is the case, and since VGC has December being pretty even between PS4 and Xb one NPD showing less Xb one sales than VGC is quite likely to mean PS4 will be the higher selling console for December. But the difference between VGC and NPD Xb one number may not be statistically significant (probably won't be) so likelihood is that even if NPD is opposite to VGC for PS4 vs Xb one there will probably be nothing truly meaningful to the difference other than the bragging rights that the fanatics like to claim.

IMO both PS4 and Xb one fans are in for a rude awakening in the long term because neither console will match 7th gen sales once sales patterns settle down from launch period frenzy and move into mid-generation sales patterns. Not as rude an awakening as poor Nintendo fans with Wii U mind you.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

binary solo said:
ethomaz said:

Carl2291 said:

No. Lets not wait four days. Show me the proof today.

Dont wait until NPD. Show me the proof. Show me your reasoning for attacking the site yet again, or Im seriously going to consider reporting you for breaking Rule 11 regarding site criticism.

What the difference...

Fell free to report me for anything... that won't change the numbers lol

If you want more... PS4 is winning in US... so report me... some crows will be served soon.

Well there's no way PS4 is selling more than VGC is saying, because VGC numbers are on the mark with Sony's PR, now that they've adjusted.


Untrue, they forgot to add 100k  last week to reach the 4,2M mark sony announced



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

FlamingWeazel said:
kowenicki said:
Xbox starts to take US, PS4 dominates Europe.

Need to get that ONE released in the rest of Europe.



1 week a small lead because sony has limited supple = x1 taking US? No.


lol nononoo.. this week xbox one outsold ps4 in US, same with last, and the one before that. matter of fact, every week, apart from the one before christmas the xbox one outsold the ps4. especially on black friday



ethomaz said:

Carl2291 said:

No. Lets not wait four days. Show me the proof today.

Dont wait until NPD. Show me the proof. Show me your reasoning for attacking the site yet again, or Im seriously going to consider reporting you for breaking Rule 11 regarding site criticism.

What the difference...

Fell free to report me for anything... that won't change the numbers lol

If you want more... PS4 is winning in US... so report me... some crows will be served soon.

Why must everything be: X vs Y? Carl is simply asking for proof on where your numbers are because you have no evidence supporting your claim for PS4 > Xbone for December. He is not trying to argue that Xbone has sold more than the precious PS4, he just wants proof for where you got your talents in soothsaying or believing that "I drove past my gamespot 2day and there were no consoles of my prefered company" means that the console wins by default.