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FlamingWeazel on 09 January 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LOL The Xbox gamers boasted so much about 360 sales that the Sony gamers are doing it too. God.


Viscious cycle. Now xbox fans say sales don't matter, lol.  But they mysteriously did when the roles were reversed.



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TheFallen on 09 January 2014
Madword said:
Arfen said:
Madword said:

Errm because the games run and look better?

These are new games, so until you buy the game you havent actually played it. So why not buy a new bit of hardware to run the games better than the current hardware you were running. Why buy a new car while your old one still drives around... it's for the benefits that a new device gives you.

I am a gamer, I love playing and buying games, no offence to the PS3 but its long in the tooth and there is no way that I want to play an open world game with worse FPS and worse graphics, when I can spend £349 and get it running better. You could say the same argument applies for people who upgrade their PC's.. it's because they want better than what they've got. I also know that as time goes by, it's only going to get some games. 

Why does it *need* to be just a new IP that drives the sales of new consoles. It's a new game if you havent played it.. no difference :)

I really don't understand why some people find this so hard to understand. :)

If u are going to buy a system to play those games and u chose a ps4 ok, no problem on that I can agree with that. But I'm talking about people who actually has a ps3 and buy a ps4 to play the same games (ok, best graphics .., but the same games after all). U can spend ur money on what u want Of course. Simply I don't get the point to buy a ps4 right now having a ps3.  
On what you say about the games I'm not saying a new console has to have new IPs to sell. Don't put words on my mouth I didn't said But the FIFA, CoD, Battlefield.. Are the sames that u can play on PS3. If those were new entries available only onthenew machine I would Understand more the point.  

The answer is because I (and many others) want the better performing/running/looking version of the games that we want to play... because PS3/Xbox360 are 7 years old, they have trouble running the games we love, why wouldnt people want to upgrade. It's irrelevant that I have played Assassins Creed 3 on PS3, AC4 is a brand new game.. that's no different from buying a new IP. Just because its available on different platforms makes no difference because you have never played AC4 on any platform until you actually buy it...lol.

If i had no consoles, wouldnt your argument be why not buy a PS3/XBX360 because it's a cheaper console and the games are cheaper... the games are the same... but we know they are not the same. Better graphics, better performance, better resolution is what I would miss out on... and I am the type of gamer that matters alot to me.

You may not get the point, and that's fine, but I and many others want to upgrade the experience while still retaining the benefits of running it on a console.... If i didnt care about the experience I would buy a cheap PS3/Xbox360.

Why do people go into costa coffee when they could just make a flask of tea/coffee... why buy a sandwich from marks and Spencers, when you could make your own on tesco brand bread.. ;) - life is about experiences, you either arn't fussed and happy with your choice (which is fine), but others want a better experience.. whether you agree or not as to why people do it, that is how us humans are :)



Agreed. Also f i've just spent 400 Euro buying new hardware to play KZ SF , InFamous SS, The Order etc, and i'm interested in other multiplats, of course i'm gonna buy them on the new system , as buying them on the previous gen PS3 would be illogical. Just because i've bought COD or BF doesn't mean that i've "Bought a PS4 to play PS3 games on it".

Zelhawks37 on 10 January 2014
Aerys said:
Zelhawks37 said:
pezus said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Multiplats galore! Not that impressive.

Except it means more game support, whereas the top only being populated by 1st party works exactly the opposite.


True, but not as impressive when it comes to actually selling first party games for Sony.

In what way first party galore would be more impressive than multiplats galore ? it depends of the game, multi million seller mario isnt more impressive than multi million seller COD. We're not talking about profit here. ( plus, that makes no differnece for us if sony/nintendo make profit)

Less incentive for first party games and more so on third party.



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Aerys on 10 January 2014
Zelhawks37 said:
Aerys said:
Zelhawks37 said:
pezus said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Multiplats galore! Not that impressive.

Except it means more game support, whereas the top only being populated by 1st party works exactly the opposite.


True, but not as impressive when it comes to actually selling first party games for Sony.

In what way first party galore would be more impressive than multiplats galore ? it depends of the game, multi million seller mario isnt more impressive than multi million seller COD. We're not talking about profit here. ( plus, that makes no differnece for us if sony/nintendo make profit)

Less incentive for first party games and more so on third party.


Wrong, based on logic, it's the opposite, exclusives have to sell better than multiplats, especially with nintendo first party.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

fps_d0minat0r on 10 January 2014
ninetailschris said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
ninetailschris said:
I notice that the only Sony game with million is bundled one ,heavily.

You must have noticed that with wii U too or did you just chose to ignore it?


Guess 3d world doesn't exist? Plus mario 2d was million way before the bundles. If you going give "gotta response" at least check your facts.


my math may be wrong, but that still makes more nintendo bundles than sonys bundles which are million sellers.

let me guess....then youre going to say well wii U's been out longer

so then I will say well by the time PS4 is that old it will have tons more million sellers.

Theres my one step ahead "gotta response" unless you want to bring up another point.



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CavemanCavan on 10 January 2014

I can't believe theres an actual conversation about why to buy a ps4 due to games getting an upgrade.

And from a Nintendo fan who knows how many Zelda ports and remakes there are?

Sometimes its hard to read posts on this site.

Yes, sony did well. Just accept it and move on to the future. Its honestly a stretch to try to make this seem like a bad thing.



DonFerrari on 10 January 2014
CavemanCavan said:
I can't believe theres an actual conversation about why to buy a ps4 due to games getting an upgrade.

And from a Nintendo fan who knows how many Zelda ports and remakes there are?

Sometimes its hard to read posts on this site.

Yes, sony did well. Just accept it and move on to the future. Its honestly a stretch to try to make this seem like a bad thing.


Any ninty exclusive is unique and special. Even on vm they become a diferente game than the original. 



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

CavemanCavan on 10 January 2014

Exclusives of any company are exclusives.



xNonox on 11 January 2014
bubblegamer said:
Cannoly said:
why do so many people still buy Call of Duty??


Weird huh. Almost as weird as people rebuying mario games every year.


maybe if they came out every year that would be relevant. He's IN a game at least every year, but he also has racers, fighters, platformers, puzzle games, rpgs, etc. 



Zelhawks37 on 12 January 2014
Aerys said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Aerys said:
Zelhawks37 said:
pezus said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Multiplats galore! Not that impressive.

Except it means more game support, whereas the top only being populated by 1st party works exactly the opposite.


True, but not as impressive when it comes to actually selling first party games for Sony.

In what way first party galore would be more impressive than multiplats galore ? it depends of the game, multi million seller mario isnt more impressive than multi million seller COD. We're not talking about profit here. ( plus, that makes no differnece for us if sony/nintendo make profit)

Less incentive for first party games and more so on third party.


Wrong, based on logic, it's the opposite, exclusives have to sell better than multiplats, especially with nintendo first party.

That's what I said... First party games are selling more on Nintendo consoles than on Sony's.



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