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bugrimmar said:
jacks81x said:
bugrimmar said:
jacks81x said:

You're asking our opinions on why Playstation.Now is a big deal to us.  I gave you my opinions.  I'm not an insider.  I don't know all the details about the service.  I can only speak for myself why I think it's a big deal.  I don't speak for you and I don't speak for anyone else here.  If you think that it's going to be exactly the same as OnLive, you're more than welcome to.  I don't agree with you, but I'm also not here to convince you.  It's not out for another 6 months.  No one here knows exactly  what the final product will be like.  And that I can say it's a FACT.   Either way, we'll find out in time. 


Exactly. That means, you admit, that all the things you said are your opinions, and therefore your assumptions.

So I just find it funny that you put "Fact" in front of all your points in response to mine, when you already know that you know nothing about this service as well.

"No one here knows exactly  what the final product will be like.  And that I can say it's a FACT." --> So that further reinforces the fact that your points were indeed assumptions, since you don't know anything about the product, right?

 

Anyway, it's good we've established together that you're just full of assumptions. moving on..

Well not really.  The ones that I did put as facts are facts.  We know those 4 games were announced at CES yesterday.  We know Sony have failed and succeeded with various ventures in the past.  We know BD is still the standard medium for HD.  And we know that Sony hasn't released all the details on the service.

But yes, moving on...


And how are those "facts" relevant to my question - how is Playstation Now different from Onlive? They aren't relevant at all.

1. 4 games = useless info.

2. Sony has failed and succeeded = useless info. The fact that they have failed counters your entire argument in the first place.

3. BD is the standard medium = useless info. So what? I was merely pointing out that Sony is more than willing to use old technology.

4. Sony hasn't released all the details = correct, but that counters your entire argument, stating that Playstation Now is going to be great, since YOU DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS.

Seriously, you're like a machine going round and round in circles. A little logic would be nice from time to time yknow? Nevermind. Sorry I responded again, I just couldn't help needing to clarify your intense error in judgment. I'll stop now.

I think you gotta stop making assumptions yourself.  I never said it will be great.  I said it's a big deal to me because of the reasons I mentioned.  You have no facts either to back your argument that PS.Now will be exactly like OnLive.  Let's just drop it at that.  We know what your stance is on this, and no one here is going to convince you otherwise. 



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archer9234 said:
The games and the fact no one has touched it yet. I bet you once lag complaints start coming in, it won't be pretty.


There will definitely be a lot of complaints and most probably it's not Sony's fault but they are not necessarily innocent in this case.



VXIII said:
archer9234 said:
VXIII said:
After seeing how well the Remore play feature works between the PS4 and the PSVita even on an average connection, people are expecting the same kind of experience. Sony know how to stream things.

Dude, that's local streaming. That isn't dealing with all the limitations through the Internet.

http://youtu.be/z2z6ZV5YwaI

http://youtu.be/I31jj8JscsQ


That's so awesome...That alone almost makes the Vita worth it.



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bugrimmar said:
jacks81x said:
bugrimmar said:
jacks81x said:

 


Well not really.  The ones that I did put as facts are facts.  We know those 4 games were announced at CES yesterday.  We know Sony have failed and succeeded with various ventures in the past.  We know BD is still the standard medium for HD.  And we know that Sony hasn't released all the details on the service.

But yes, moving on...


And how are those "facts" relevant to my question - how is Playstation Now different from Onlive? They aren't relevant at all.

1. 4 games = useless info.

2. Sony has failed and succeeded = useless info. The fact that they have failed counters your entire argument in the first place.

3. BD is the standard medium = useless info. So what? I was merely pointing out that Sony is more than willing to use old technology.

4. Sony hasn't released all the details = correct, but that counters your entire argument, stating that Playstation Now is going to be great, since YOU DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS.

Seriously, you're like a machine going round and round in circles. A little logic would be nice from time to time yknow? Nevermind. Sorry I responded again, I just couldn't help needing to clarify your intense error in judgment. I'll stop now.


Jesus guy, you asked why it was different than Onlive and he told you.

1. Games: He is saying that because Sony has such a large games library and has good relationships with other publishers the chances that it will have a good library are alot better. Seeing as how the games they have announced are pretty desirable games it's a good inditacor of things to come.

2. He is saying that it is less likely that Sony will fail than ONlive because they have the resources and have had the time to make sure it works. Which if the first impressions are anything to go by (along with impressions of Gaikai) than it works and will only continue to improve as the infastructure is built up.

3. He was saying that the tech for streaming games has improved and that they are probably not using the old OUTDATED tech that Onlive uses. BD might be old but it isn't outdated.

4. The info we do have it promising so it looks like the service will be really cool. We have more reason to be positive about PSNow than we do to be negative.

He made perfect sense, don't be such a tool.



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Normchacho said:


Jesus guy, you asked why it was different than Onlive and he told you.

1. Games: He is saying that because Sony has such a large games library and has good relationships with other publishers the chances that it will have a good library are alot better. Seeing as how the games they have announced are pretty desirable games it's a good inditacor of things to come.

2. He is saying that it is less likely that Sony will fail than ONlive because they have the resources and have had the time to make sure it works. Which if the first impressions are anything to go by (along with impressions of Gaikai) than it works and will only continue to improve as the infastructure is built up.

3. He was saying that the tech for streaming games has improved and that they are probably not using the old OUTDATED tech that Onlive uses. BD might be old but it isn't outdated.

4. The info we do have it promising so it looks like the service will be really cool. We have more reason to be positive about PSNow than we do to be negative.

He made perfect sense, don't be such a tool.


How are pure 100% assumptions perfect sense? Using assumptions is the exact opposite. It's nonsense.

Anyway I've let go of this argument. Moving on..



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walsufnir said:
archer9234 said:
The games and the fact no one has touched it yet. I bet you once lag complaints start coming in, it won't be pretty.


There will definitely be a lot of complaints and most probably it's not Sony's fault but they are not necessarily innocent in this case.


There will be complaints no matter what.  People are complaining now and the service isn't even live yet. 



wanj said:
walsufnir said:
archer9234 said:
The games and the fact no one has touched it yet. I bet you once lag complaints start coming in, it won't be pretty.


There will definitely be a lot of complaints and most probably it's not Sony's fault but they are not necessarily innocent in this case.


There will be complaints no matter what.  People are complaining now and the service isn't even live yet.


But there will also be complaints because Sony can't change your internet access, as easy as this. It's not about liking anything or being a fan of a company but hard facts of how technology works.



This is a huge deal that has the potential to change the console scene. In a way, it's Sony eliminating the need for their own console. Throw a Dualshock 4 in with new Bravia TVs, which will include the Playstation Now app, and consumers can play whatever they want for a monthly subscription (like superchunk mentioned, an additional pricing scheme will have to be adopted for titles within a given time frame of release, say one year). Obviously the technology will have to evolve a bit, but that's where this might going. Users without Sony tech may be able to purchase a small set top box like Vita TV to get themselves connected.



It's all about the game.

I need to see subscription prices before I can judge. Anyway, it's agood thing it's launching on the US first, as we in Europe can see all the pros and cons way before it arrives. I also really need to see how you can play Crash Bandicoot on a TV alone. Really interesting things begin to happen.

I also don't know (or remember) what onlive is.



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walsufnir said:
wanj said:
walsufnir said:
archer9234 said:
The games and the fact no one has touched it yet. I bet you once lag complaints start coming in, it won't be pretty.


There will definitely be a lot of complaints and most probably it's not Sony's fault but they are not necessarily innocent in this case.


There will be complaints no matter what.  People are complaining now and the service isn't even live yet.


But there will also be complaints because Sony can't change your internet access, as easy as this. It's not about liking anything or being a fan of a company but hard facts of how technology works.

Exactly.  There's going to be a recommended minimum internet speed I'm sure, no different than any other streaming services.  If people still choose to use the service even though they don't meet the minimum requirement, then there's nothing Sony can do about that.