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Wii U - Zelda. I knew it wouldn't come out during launch period or 2014, but I knew it would come. Still need to get Wind Waker HD.

3DS - OOT 3D.



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snyps said:
Michael-5 said:

By definition, Capitalism is the economic system which promotes free trade. Money should go to the best producer, if USA can't keep up, they shouldn't get pity cheques. By strictly buying American products because they are American and discouraging free trade, you are by definition, being a communist (no offense).

Plus both systems are built in China, how are you exactly creating jobs in the United States?


MS's interactive entertainment business hires ppl with computer science degrees, for one.  I think about applying sometimes.  I don't care much for definitions of "you're this or you're that".  I go so far as to buy from companies that are based in my own city (if given the choice) to promote jobs in my neighborhood.  Anything else would be irresponsible. 

Choosing to buy a product, partially based on job creation, from a private company is not communism by any definition.  

My point about the Capitalist/Communist this is that buying domestic is "Un-American" because USA was founded on the economic liberty of Capitalism and free-trade.

Both MS & Sony will preferably hire the most qualified programers for their online services. Neither company cares if you were from the USA, Europe, China or whatever, and both companies have brances in each region to save on taxes. So like your image explains, buying MS over Sony doesn't specifically create any more Job in the USA since a more successful PSN in USA would create more Jobs at SCEA in California.

Choosing to buy domestic over imported on the sole basis of Job Creation goes against free-trade, which is exactly the opposite of Capitalist. I'm not saying "by definition" as an arguement, I am using actual defining terms for Capitalism/Communism. Free-Trade is one of the largests principles of Capitalism, and the lack of it is one of the largest principles of Communism (and to an extent Socialism).

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Being someone who is a Capitalist, I will get the better product when the time comes to upgrade. Right now this just means a WiiU/PC for me for now, but I might get a PS4 if I start hearing about XBO's break like 360's in the future.



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Michael-5 said:
snyps said:
Michael-5 said:

By definition, Capitalism is the economic system which promotes free trade. Money should go to the best producer, if USA can't keep up, they shouldn't get pity cheques. By strictly buying American products because they are American and discouraging free trade, you are by definition, being a communist (no offense).

Plus both systems are built in China, how are you exactly creating jobs in the United States?


MS's interactive entertainment business hires ppl with computer science degrees, for one.  I think about applying sometimes.  I don't care much for definitions of "you're this or you're that".  I go so far as to buy from companies that are based in my own city (if given the choice) to promote jobs in my neighborhood.  Anything else would be irresponsible. 

Choosing to buy a product, partially based on job creation, from a private company is not communism by any definition.  

My point about the Capitalist/Communist this is that buying domestic is "Un-American" because USA was founded on the economic liberty of Capitalism and free-trade.

Both MS & Sony will preferably hire the most qualified programers for their online services. Neither company cares if you were from the USA, Europe, China or whatever, and both companies have brances in each region to save on taxes. So like your image explains, buying MS over Sony doesn't specifically create any more Job in the USA since a more successful PSN in USA would create more Jobs at SCEA in California.

Choosing to buy domestic over imported on the sole basis of Job Creation goes against free-trade, which is exactly the opposite of Capitalist. I'm not saying "by definition" as an arguement, I am using actual defining terms for Capitalism/Communism. Free-Trade is one of the largests principles of Capitalism, and the lack of it is one of the largest principles of Communism (and to an extent Socialism).

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Being someone who is a Capitalist, I will get the better product when the time comes to upgrade. Right now this just means a WiiU/PC for me for now, but I might get a PS4 if I start hearing about XBO's break like 360's in the future.


  Free trade does not mean i can't support local business.

 

About hiring...

 

1stly.  MS's IEB division hires thousands for designing and maintaining everything about XBOX from the ground up.  From system architect to software engineers through to business majors and beyond.  Online but one star in a constellation.

2ndly. Sony is head quartered in tokyo, japan.  MS HQ is in washington, usa.  They each create jobs in u.s., but the bulk of profits (if they ever start making any) go to different countries.  MS's earnings get used in america.  Sony's earnings get used in japan. If i use money in my neighborhood i'm helping my local economy.  If the store i buy at uses it's money in my neighborhood i'm helping my local economy double.

Let me give you an example.  If i want a big wall built i hire masons.  I can hire a local company to build it, they pay their workers very well and the profit they gain goes toward hire more of my neighbors and for buying goods in my neiborhood, creating even more jobs here.  Alternatively, i can hire immigrants.  They pay their employees less which drives down wages in my city. The profit gets sent back to their family in another country for buying goods in their home town, creating more jobs there.  The choice is mine to make and has nothing to do with free trade.  It's a matter of personal preference.  

 

 

On the subject of opposites and communism...  that's all hyperbole.



snyps said:
Michael-5 said:

My point about the Capitalist/Communist this is that buying domestic is "Un-American" because USA was founded on the economic liberty of Capitalism and free-trade.

Both MS & Sony will preferably hire the most qualified programers for their online services. Neither company cares if you were from the USA, Europe, China or whatever, and both companies have brances in each region to save on taxes. So like your image explains, buying MS over Sony doesn't specifically create any more Job in the USA since a more successful PSN in USA would create more Jobs at SCEA in California.

Choosing to buy domestic over imported on the sole basis of Job Creation goes against free-trade, which is exactly the opposite of Capitalist. I'm not saying "by definition" as an arguement, I am using actual defining terms for Capitalism/Communism. Free-Trade is one of the largests principles of Capitalism, and the lack of it is one of the largest principles of Communism (and to an extent Socialism).

-----

Being someone who is a Capitalist, I will get the better product when the time comes to upgrade. Right now this just means a WiiU/PC for me for now, but I might get a PS4 if I start hearing about XBO's break like 360's in the future.


  Free trade does not mean i can't support local business.

About hiring...

1stly.  MS's IEB division hires thousands for designing and maintaining everything about XBOX from the ground up.  From system architect to software engineers through to business majors and beyond.  Online but one star in a constellation.

2ndly. Sony is head quartered in tokyo, japan.  MS HQ is in washington, usa.  They each create jobs in u.s., but the bulk of profits (if they ever start making any) go to different countries.  MS's earnings get used in america.  Sony's earnings get used in japan. If i use money in my neighborhood i'm helping my local economy.  If the store i buy at uses it's money in my neighborhood i'm helping my local economy double.

Let me give you an example.  If i want a big wall built i hire masons.  I can hire a local company to build it, they pay their workers very well and the profit they gain goes toward hire more of my neighbors and for buying goods in my neiborhood, creating even more jobs here.  Alternatively, i can hire immigrants.  They pay their employees less which drives down wages in my city. The profit gets sent back to their family in another country for buying goods in their home town, creating more jobs there.  The choice is mine to make and has nothing to do with free trade.  It's a matter of personal preference.  

On the subject of opposites and communism...  that's all hyperbole.

Yea, but if you support Capitalism, and if you support free trade, then buying domestic over import because it's domestic would make you a hipocrite. You should only buy the better product, simple.

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1. And Sony doesn't hire people to make PSN?

2. Profits always go to CEO's, and CEO's support free trade. The Ferrari Bill Gates drives is still imported from Europe. As for your example about the house, yea that's true, but should any company deserve to be rich when the produce the lower quality product?

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Look at it this way. Why do Japanese electronics sell better then US products? It's because the companies are more capable of doing market reasearch, and building products in demand with what consumers want. This means that the people inside the studio are better at their jobs then Americans. Now why is that? It's because they worked harder during their time in school and/or are more talented. Why should the American studio get your money when the Japanese worked for it?

Sure Japans economy would improve over USA's, but in a Capitalistic world, regions shouldn't matter. If people work harder in Japan (maybe because of a better education system), and companies become successful there, then I think those CEO's deserve the money more then American CEO's.

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It is a matter of preference, but I don't like to give out cheques to undeserving bums. If USA wants their economy to improve, they need to work on a proper education system, and beat the Japanese in the way a Capitalistic society dictates it to. By making the better product.



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