Anfebious said: Well Gran Turismo 6 is selling on a platform that has 80 million users while Super Mario 3D World is selling on a platform that has 5 million users. There is kind of a difference .

Yes, GT6 should sell more than Mario

LOl instal base is irrelevant he says

GT6 should have had bigger sales since it has a bigger instal base but with all this next gen stuff people are spending their money on those instead

Anfebious said: Well Gran Turismo 6 is selling on a platform that has 80 million users while Super Mario 3D World is selling on a platform that has 5 million users. There is kind of a difference .

The BIG difference I see, is a platform with over 500 games to choose from, lots of them, even just released for very cheap already, on the other hand there's a console with maybe 3 good games...and this one is pretty much THE single BEST one  on it. 

You can't discard the install base factor. Especially when there's 75 million unit difference.

Guess it depends on who you talk to. I love Mario 3D World (got it tattooed on my back) and all things Nintendo. At the same time, I love and hate Sony at the same time. I think BOTH games underperformed for different reasons. Both games will do decently, though.

lol just because you say "install base or not" doesn't mean it's irrelevant.

While I think they are both 'disappointing' in terms of sales, I want them to have long legs and keep charting, if only to stop the top 10 each week being the FPS-fest it's been for much of the last few years. We've finally got a nice mix of games up there and I hope it stays that way.

What people dont understand is that this year we had the launch of 2 new systems. Many people bought those. Actually, about 5 million overall.

Who in their right mind, doesnt think that wont reflect on software sales? These are kids who dont earn their own money who think other people are made of gold.
If i bought a new system this christmas, for 400 or 500 euros, i would be buying 1 game and thats it. Its very expensive stuff. If i dont have to spend that much on a new system im more willing to buy more games. Maybe 3 or 4 instead.

It wasnt just GT6 and Super mario that were down this holiday. So was CoD, so was assassins creed, etc. Everything is down.

But intelligence isnt the forte of the internet.

mutantclown said: Anfebious said: Well Gran Turismo 6 is selling on a platform that has 80 million users while Super Mario 3D World is selling on a platform that has 5 million users. There is kind of a difference . The BIG difference I see, is a platform with over 500 games to choose from, lots of them, even just released for very cheap already, on the other hand there's a console with maybe 3 good games...and this one is pretty much THE single BEST one  on it.

I doubt the quantity of software has such a major impact on GT6 sales as you claim. First of all, most of that software has actually been discontinued. Most stores, even the big ones, have less than 100 different titles on the shelves at the same time. Also, most of those games are not considered AAA-games in terms of quality or market potential. So in other words, the amount of games released for a platform prior to the last 12 months, have virtually no impact on sales of new software. There are other factors that have much more relevance. GT6's low sales are all about bad timing. The game was released in a period when all eyes were/are on PS4. In such a climate, GT6 won't stand a chance. The question is, did Sony expect these sales? If yes, then the game is not a flop at all.

When it comes to Super Mario 3D World, it's a slightly different story. Quite a large chunk of that game's sales could be traced back to a lack of other relevant high quality software for WiiU. On the other hand, increased hardware sales since the release of Super Mario 3D World, suggests it's much more than just lack of software that drives the sales Mario's latest installment.

It will be interesting to see how strong and long Mario's legs will be. If the next weekly sales report has him between 200 000-300 000 copies again, then I believe we might see Super Mario 3D World on the chartz well into Q1.

Anfebious said: Well Gran Turismo 6 is selling on a platform that has 80 million users while Super Mario 3D World is selling on a platform that has 5 million users. There is kind of a difference .

GT6 has 2890 competitors on PS3 while Mario 3D World has 126 competitors on WiiU. This makes some difference too. And, unless people can prove me that the best selling games of a platform never come at the beginning, I will assume one factor counterbalances the other.