I wouldn't get one until you could upgrade the Hard Drive with an off the shelf.

500 gigs is nothing with the size of games these days.  

More importantly, if the hard drive breaks (as they often do) your $500 console becomes a brick.

I think not allowing users to upgrade the HD was a very shortsighted and stupid move by MS, especialy considering that their initial intention was to allow users to play everything off the HD without a disc but with DRM.

I don't see any price drops in the near future. Both consoles are doing very nice so far compared to previous generation launch.

Don't think they'll remove kinect either sometime soon. They have a less powerful hardware and no blockbusters exclusives in the long run (they had a good launch though). They need kinect to diferentiate with the competition. PS4 will have all the others: core games, exclusive and great performance.

It's hurting by making the console much more expensive than it needs to be.  MS needs to have a lower end SKU, and I think they will.

Kinect is an optional accessory that somebody can buy separately if they are interested in it.  You only think it's good for navigation because of how cluttered the XB1 UI is.  On the PS4 you can get everywhere with just a few button presses.  Your most used games & apps are kept near, and extra functions are just push up or push down on the d-pad.  Faster and less error prone than "Err... do this.  Xbox do this.  XBOX, do this.  XBOX.... DOOO THIIIISSSS.".

Don't bet on it being the best selling xbox after just 5 or 6 weeks of sales.  The XB1 has had far more supply at launch than XB360.  360 was very hard to get hold of for a lot longer.  It's too early to tell if XB1 will actually be ahead 5 or 6 months down the road.  With a $499 price compared to the 360 having $399 and $299 versions at launch is a big difference to most people.  You'll see... money doesn't grow on trees in this economy.

Xbox One price drop sooner than forecast?

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/microsoft-could-reduce-xbox-one-price-faster-than-forecasted/0126374

That said, Pachter is the source so maybe my prediction of an XB1 price drop this year just went out the window :p

This is Patcher we're talking about....

I don't think the price will drop soon unless the console doesn't sell in the spring a la Wii U. 

For Christmas 2014 you have a pack with Xone without Kinect + game for 399. Im pretty sure

The day when X1 drops to 349.99 (or $299 if we're super lucky) is the day I'll get the console.

Let it be known  ICStats was right in his predictions for price drop. Lets hope we can all use good logic and reason and be as accurate in the future. For all the naysayers and doubters let it be known

And he was he deserves a pat on the back for that prediction. Good call sir good call!

$300 and free online, I tell you!