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Devil_Survivor on 27 December 2013
Fusioncode said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
PS is the only brand they have threatened to pull all support from so far and that was a few years ago when PS3 wasn't selling so well and neither was PSP (To Activision standards)

And that didn't happen because PS3 owners bought a ton of Activision games. 


You shouldn't have to threaten people to get them to buy your half-ass games. Its on those companies to make quality games that make people want to buy them.



 

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curl-6 on 27 December 2013
oniyide said:

and you would have been wrong cause half of those issues dont even exist. Graphically superior you telling now it was the worst selling version? glitch ridden? compared to what version i assure the PS3 version doesnt exactly run silky smooth. DLC? you are really overhyping DLC by that logic the PS/PC versions shouldnt do as well as they do. Whats considerale? Because im sure even with those factors Wii U version wouldnt have come close to any version even if they doubled the sales that means that it still wouldnt come close to the others.

Oh, the issues most certainly exist, check out the official forums, digital foundry, etc. PC and PS still get DLC, Wii U gets none despite it being promised for Black Ops 2. Zero marketing for the Wii U version as well.

If we changed just the way the Wii U versions were handled, (and kept the way the brand was mishandled on Wii) I could see BO2/Ghosts U tripling current sales, which with regard to install base would be similar to PS3/360 attach rates.



Cobretti2 on 27 December 2013
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

No COD after Modern Warfare sold below 5 million on the PS3. You're grasping at straws.

COD 3

Wii: 2.2m

PS3 1.42m

Wii missed out on the series explosion with COD4 cos Activision screwed Nintendo gamers.

it wasn't so much Activision but IW refusing to work on Nintendo platforms. Activision shoudl have had the balls to tell them to make one.



 

 

Cobretti2 on 27 December 2013
curl-6 said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Once the PS3 and Xbox 360 stop getting support the doors to the Wii U will also be closed. Activision will be apart of that and the COD sales on the Wii u as they said was inexcusable.

COD's current sales on Wii U are the result of how badly he series has been handled on Wii/Wii U.


Wrong crowd. Plain and simple. Enough with the excuses.

Not excuses, reasons. COD once sold better on Wii than PS3. Then COD4 skipped the Wii. Then, when Nintendo gamers finally thought they'd get equal treatment on Wii U, they didn't, and were lied to about DLC. Nintendo gamers have had enough of Activision jerking them around.


do you honestly believe if it got "equal" treatment it would have sold much better? I gaurantee it wouldnt it would still have been slaughtered by PS3/4 and both xbox versions, because the audience is so different

Yes, I absolutely believe that had Black Ops 2 and Ghosts on Wii U been top-notch ports (graphically superior, not glitch-riddled) with equal treatment as far as content goes and no broken promises, they would have sold considerably better than they did.


but the other versions also have glitches. Even the PS54 had some minor framerate issues when it launched. Fixed with a patch. WIi U patch fixed the framerate issues on Ghosts also. You annot expect a game that comes out on 5 platforms to be glitch free unless they delay it for ages to get all the bugs out.

The issue is the audience is not there. The audience has left long ago. Hence why I said earlier Activision need to build a new audience on Wii U (i.e. Wii U owners only), however that will be hard or almost impossible as the console isn't selling that well and because most people these days have at least two consoles.



 

 

Spade on 27 December 2013

Nintendo consoles for me are solely 1st party/3rd party exclusives (for the most part). Also don't care for the Activision casual games.



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curl-6 on 27 December 2013
Cobretti2 said:

but the other versions also have glitches. Even the PS54 had some minor framerate issues when it launched. Fixed with a patch. WIi U patch fixed the framerate issues on Ghosts also. You annot expect a game that comes out on 5 platforms to be glitch free unless they delay it for ages to get all the bugs out.

The issue is the audience is not there. The audience has left long ago. Hence why I said earlier Activision need to build a new audience on Wii U (i.e. Wii U owners only), however that will be hard or almost impossible as the console isn't selling that well and because most people these days have at least two consoles.

There was an audience, and there still is a potential one, but Activision is doing a fine job of driving them away.



Viper1 on 27 December 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Viper1 said:

1. Game reveals.  Nintendo consoles are almost always absent from them whereas Sony consoles are right there.
2. Follow up press materials.  Sony consoles are noted, Nintendo consoles are not.
3. Preess kits.  I'd get press kits on Sony and MS consoles long before I received one, if at all, for Nintendo consoles.
4. Press events.  Events would cover Sony and MS consoles and openly refuse to discus Nintendo consoles.
5. General PR.  Not even acknowledging a Nintendo console version even exists until just prior to game launch.
6. Bulk marketing.  TV, print and online ads would many times not even include the Nintendo console or would do so only minimally.

The combination of the above since the beginning and the difference in target audience has mean that CoD was never going to do as well on Nintendo consoles as Sony and MS.    Even if the target audiences were equal across all 3 console makers, Nintendo consoles would have fallen behind and stayed behind because the effort to establish the brand on Nintendo consoles was absolutely atrociaous by comparison.  

The sales we see today are a result of the failed brand development and indifferent target audience.   Anyone claiming it was solely just one of those factors and not both is either ignoring somethign to push an agenda or was simply unware of how badly Activision handled the brand on Nintendo consoles.

I think thats because of timing issues. I think Nintendo's Wii U's sales are a result of an audience that refuses to form on their console so Activision isn't even willing to budge. The Wii U isn't even an option to them because I think most are going to cut the Wii U out of the equation once last gen console development is phased out. The Wii U failed to impress before that time so I think they are judging based on that. EA hasn't even appeared with Battlefield 3 on the Wii U even though they promised and I think thats from an internal disagreement with EA. 

Maybe, but that ignores the success of th eWii completely and only suggests the Wii U sales are bad because of the Wii U.  CoD sales are bad on Wii U because the target audience is broader and the brand on Nintendo consoles was poorly handled.  You can't expect sales to suddenly increase massively on the next console when you've shit on the fanbase for years prior.

As for EA, who really knows that was all about.  I think that early support was a mix of John Riccitiello trying to work with Nintendo and then being ousted which stalled the working relationship and the other portion being the Origin speculation.  But as I said, all speculation.



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GamechaserBE on 27 December 2013

With 8 GB your wii U would be fast full with updates, aren't the dlc for COD aswell 1-2 GB each?



Viper1 on 27 December 2013
GamechaserBE said:
With 8 GB your wii U would be fast full with updates, aren't the dlc for COD aswell 1-2 GB each?

They don't sell 8 GB models anymore.   Haven't for quite a long while.

And I think the Wii U is the only 8th gen console that allows for external HDD's.



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GamechaserBE on 27 December 2013
Viper1 said:
GamechaserBE said:
With 8 GB your wii U would be fast full with updates, aren't the dlc for COD aswell 1-2 GB each?

They don't sell 8 GB models anymore.   Haven't for quite a long while.

And I think the Wii U is the only 8th gen console that allows for external HDD's.


Oh? Because I just bought one for my sister that was 8GB  the Just dance + Nintendoland version.