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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
mysticwolf said:
I think maybe not... it's an important part of Christianity. One reason Christianity was so successful is that it was universal, you didn't need status or anything. Anyone could get into Heaven. That and its message was given to anyone and everyone that was willing to accept it, including low status men.


In other words, loving your enemy and offering shelter for the poor would not be preferable if it was not for the eternal reward, and the word of God isn't good enough on its own?

 

Sounds like God applies to your greed more than anything, if Heaven has such a big role in Christianity's spreading.

Try and keep in mind that many believe, including some major athesists that good and morality wouldnt exist without religion.  Many forget that religion in many ways represents the roots of the flower of morality that our society was built on.



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BMaker11 said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Never said that sorry to say your word twisting isn't going to work. I don't think God is everything. 


If not, then why is it that a lack of believing in God is "believing in nothing"? You'd rather have something to believe in and believe in nothing right? Could God be replaced with something else to believe in, in your worldview? If so, why stick to being Christian without the reward of Heaven? If he can't be replaced, and a lack of believing in him is "believing in nothing", the opposite of that is belief in God/everything. 

You started this by saying you'd rather believe in something (God) than believe in nothing. You could have said "I'd rather believe in God than something else" but no, you said believing in something is more satisfying than believing in nothing. This is not twisting words, you're just hiding behind your misspoken statement. There were implications based on what you said.

Just like in the Forza 3 vs GT6 thread that's up right now. The OP says "Overall Forza 3 has better textures, performance, better people animations and better damage." Would I be "twisting his words" if I implied from this statement that he thinks GT6s graphics are worse than Forza 3s? I mean, he didn't outright say it, but all points lead to believe that OP has that opinion. I did the same thing with what you said. You've just realized that your simple statement had more weight than you thought, or want to own up to, so you're saying I'm "twisting your words" to get out of it

You're taking the whole thing out of context. When I said that it wasn't meant to sound like God is everything if that's how you took it then that's your problem not mine. So why don't you just stop trying to respond, you're saying the same thing just with different words it doesn't change anything. 



NolSinkler said:
superryo said:
SlayerRondo said:
Of course not. Why do you think they invented heaven and hell if not for recruiting purposes.

Now Mohammed really kicked things off with the offer of virgins in the afterlife.

I wonder where all those virgins come from?


nuns and ugly chicks.

LOL you are bad! 



scat398 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
mysticwolf said:
I think maybe not... it's an important part of Christianity. One reason Christianity was so successful is that it was universal, you didn't need status or anything. Anyone could get into Heaven. That and its message was given to anyone and everyone that was willing to accept it, including low status men.


In other words, loving your enemy and offering shelter for the poor would not be preferable if it was not for the eternal reward, and the word of God isn't good enough on its own?

 

Sounds like God applies to your greed more than anything, if Heaven has such a big role in Christianity's spreading.

Try and keep in mind that many believe, including some major athesists that good and morality wouldnt exist without religion.  Many forget that religion in many ways represents the roots of the flower of morality that our society was built on.


Yeah, I know. I was just trying to move the discussion forward.



ASStronaut said:
Islam and Christianity? They are both loathsome creations.


They are both just off shoots of Judism.



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maybe? it's in the FAITH. the FAITH