Dark Souls and Monster Hunter are both games I enjoy. Both games can be challenging at times, and more importantly, both franchises have qualities that are beloved by fans that set the games apart from others. Additionally, I feel like people ripping on the Dark Souls PC port have either only read about it or played it during the initial release, because it is much better now, especially if you mod (which should be yes if you're playing it on PC).

Look at that port in context. Japans PC gaming market is tiny, the team played safe with what they know. PC gamers were vocal and started petitions. With blessings from Namco Bandai (evil 3rd party publishing overlord), who literally said "‘Guys, don’t worry about this – let’s just get it out and see how this works on PC.", they released the game. source - http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/12/19/dark-souls-producer-admits-pc-port-was-rushed-promises-sequel-will-be-a-good-pc-experience/

The response from the PC gamers was so good regardless that a sequel is coming out on PC. Unlike the usual gimped port, late port, no advertising excuses from the N crowd. And mind you PC gamers are a damn picky bunch. Namco Bandai has now brought Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 (of all things) to the PC, thats what happens when fans actually support the publishers. I believe the success of Dark Souls helped play a part in that, I strongly do.

The same for Street Fighter IV, Street Fighter X Tekken and Resident Evil 5/6/Revelations on PC. Metal Gear Solid Revengeance is out for PC as well. Dark Souls 2 will probably do fairly well on PC, enough to get a DS3 if it eventually gets made and at that point a Wii U version might technically be impossible or highly comprimised on the Wii U. Indeed once PS4 and X1 get their "Far Cry 2" type not possible on last gen games things will get bloody insane.

Moral of the story. If the games sell to satisfactory levels 3rd partys will come, if they dont they wont.

Secondly, late, gimped and unadvertised games came to both PC and PS3 and still managed to sell well enought to motivate 3rd partys to improve their support for the systems. Despite vocal "will not buy rants" online from fans on the said systems.

Lastly, Im looking towards Project C.A.R.S to see how feasible it would be for 3rd parties to support the Wii U as well as X1, PS4, Linux/Steam and PC simultaneously. Given how current gen ports usually struggle on Wii U I really fear for the future.

Theres no evil anti Nintendo scheme at play, its just business. Ive come to terms with that, and accept my Wii U for what it is. A system for 1st and 3rd party exclusives and not much else. As a owner of a Wii U, I have no problems with what he said. Its unfortunate but entirely logical.

I have all those Capcom games on Steam, and they run properly out the box so I have no problems with them. From Software is actually not that good of a company when it comes to coding and the games are all pretty mediocore to start with, they might have a cult hit or 2 but that doesn't speak for high quality and that's the reality of the situation. I also have not mentioned the Wii U yet, Project Cars is really a PC game that will be gimped for consoles so it's not a port to PC to start with. I'm not going to buy that thing on Wii U at 30 frames per second so in logic to From Software's shitty coding, no Dark Souls for me on Wii U ever, no fucking way in hell's inferno. Hopefully Dark Souls 2 won't suck as much balls like the unbalanced as hell game mechanics or shitty frame rates seen in previous games.

As far as I know none of the CODs on any Ninty system ever got DLC, BUT that probably contributed to the declining sales over the years for it on Ninty platforms so you might have a point there.

We're going ot have to agree to disagree on this point I dont think its an insight at ALL on quality what it is is an insight on accesibilty. I think the JD series is mediocore at best but its one of the best selling ones, am I wrong? No im not its my opinion. I think Metacritic and any review where a person actually PLAYS the game is far better than judging sales. Its not like we know the sales of a game the day it comes out.

Yes they were. There were even threads on this very site saying how it was running in 1080p and how it looked and ran better than PS360. But you're right there wasnt enough difference for anyone to buy a Wii U for it but lord have mercy you think a franchise of that size could have cleared the 250,000 mark in a year. 

If Jim is saying it is the best console version and you agree with him how is it the inferior port? Unique features? WIimote, gamepad? does it not have those what more does it need?

I still think you are putting too much stock in DLC, PS360 had DLC spats all gen and that didnt change things too much. THey still sold about par for most of the gen. My point is that those systems have the audience for whatever those games are. Do you honestly believe that if Wii U had DLC it would have sold MUCH better, cause i doubt it.

And they are not getting it

People dont exactly play Dark Souls for the story. The selling point is the difficulty factor. It weeds out the faint of heart. 

I don't like the game mechanics as much is about it, no game is too difficult to beat unless the programmers are retarded. It's not like I didn't play Demon Souls.

I cant see why people make a storm about this thread. I mean, its kinda obvious that DS would get next to nothing copies sold on wii u, and people should not take this offensive in any way.

It's the Nintendo fan snubbed cycle

- Third party says "X/Y/Z" franchise isn't suitable for Wii U 

- Nintendo fan gets up in arms about it. Even though they'd never actually buy said franchise. 

- Then an insinuation is made along the lines of: "we never wanted that crappy franchise anyway. Nintendo fans have better taste than to buy franchise X/Y/Z." 

- Additionally sometime's a parting statement like "pffft, company X/Y/Z will be sorry for ignoring Nintendo, they'll come running back once Mario Kart sells 20 million Nintendo consoles on its own!". 

Rinse, wash, repeat. 

Eh, I don't particularly care.