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fatslob-:O said:
MDMAlliance said:


You're under the false impression that people buy things because they are looking for quality.  Not only that, but you are also under the false impression that the majority of people know exactly what they're getting into when they buy something.  It also shows your lack of knowledge of how marketing works, and why people buy anything.  

If you see a trend where people buy single ply toilet paper over two-ply, would you really be under the assumption that all single ply toilet paper is better quality than two-ply?  

People don't blindly act stupid and buy something they obviously don't like!  Just because you like something, doesn't mean it's high quality.  This is something you need to understand, but you're being too stubborn to. That's like saying certain shit is the best because of randomness but that isn't true because the majority have specific reasons as to why one product is better than the rest. 

Marketing alone will not get a game through.  I never said that.  I said that your lack of knowledge of how marketing works is apparent by your strange position that sales numbers equate to quality.  I was saying it is a factor, not the only one.  Did you see what happened to BF4 ? That game had a higher marketing campaign than it's last iteration yet it's obviously a farcry from it's last iteration which was largely better. 

That's because single ply can match the thickness of a two ply while also being cheaper to produce so there's your reason. 
My sentence specifically said "all single ply toilet paper."  If you knew anything about single ply toilet paper, you know that worst single ply vs the worst two-ply, the two-ply is better in overall quality.  You clearly do not understand this topic well at all.





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MDMAlliance said:
fatslob-:O said:
MDMAlliance said:


You're under the false impression that people buy things because they are looking for quality.  Not only that, but you are also under the false impression that the majority of people know exactly what they're getting into when they buy something.  It also shows your lack of knowledge of how marketing works, and why people buy anything.  

If you see a trend where people buy single ply toilet paper over two-ply, would you really be under the assumption that all single ply toilet paper is better quality than two-ply?  

People don't blindly act stupid and buy something they obviously don't like!  Just because you like something, doesn't mean it's high quality.  This is something you need to understand, but you're being too stubborn to. That's like saying certain shit is the best because of randomness but that isn't true because the majority have specific reasons as to why one product is better than the rest. 

Marketing alone will not get a game through.  I never said that.  I said that your lack of knowledge of how marketing works is apparent by your strange position that sales numbers equate to quality.  I was saying it is a factor, not the only one.  Did you see what happened to BF4 ? That game had a higher marketing campaign than it's last iteration yet it's obviously a farcry from it's last iteration which was largely better. 

That's because single ply can match the thickness of a two ply while also being cheaper to produce so there's your reason. 
My sentence specifically said "all single ply toilet paper."  If you knew anything about single ply toilet paper, you know that worst single ply vs the worst two-ply, the two-ply is better in overall quality.  You clearly do not understand this topic well at all.



I obviously realize that we have different opinions. Just because I don't like justin biebers music doesn't give me the right to claim it as trash because the market is in clear disagreement of my opinion. Sales do define quality otherwise many products wouldn't face rejection in comparison competing products. Just because many people like shakespeare does not mean that I am willing to agree but that also doesn't give me the right to detrack it's quality because it's what the market likes. The one who's stubborn here is you and everyone else in this forum who are full of hardcore gamers that don't get the perspective of the masses.

Just how important do you think big budget marketing is for a game ? Minecraft got through to the market without spending a shit ton of money to get a large following. If anything this shows that you have a lack of understanding how quality is defined. 

The same thing could be thrown right back at you. Are all two ply toilet papers better than single ply ? Clearly not because some single ply toilet paper will match the performance at a cheaper price. 



fatslob-:O said:
mysteryman said:
fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.

Would you rather a system full of crappy games that sell well to the masses?

Those so called "crappy" games are realized in high quality according to the masses so yes.  

Wii had the highest quality games in generation 7 confirmed



impertinence said:
fatslob-:O said:
mysteryman said:
fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.

Would you rather a system full of crappy games that sell well to the masses?

Those so called "crappy" games are realized in high quality according to the masses so yes.  

Wii had the highest quality games in generation 7 confirmed

True story bra. 



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Purple said:
mysteryman said:
fatslob-:O said:
mysteryman said:
fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.

Would you rather a system full of crappy games that sell well to the masses?

Those so called "crappy" games are realized in high quality according to the masses so yes.  

Great, you can enjoy Just Dance 4 and Angry Birds Star Wars, I'd rather play decent games regardless of their sales.


There's nothing wrong with Just Dance 4!


You want Angry Birds Star Wars and Just Dance?  So... you're going to buy a PS4?



the thing about sales meaning quality is laughable. are you saying all the fad products are quality cause they sold great at some point, then later people realized, it and that product died.



fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.


I agree 50/50. Business wise yes but games that bombed that are great like Tearaway (vita) or W101 (WiiU) might be better than those commercial successors.

3DS with Sales kill Vita but doesn't mean vita doesn't have great games or even better than 3DS. WiiU can sell 15mil lifetime and people will love SSB or MK8 over lots of ps4+x1 titles!!!



mysteryman said:
fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.

Would you rather a system full of crappy games that sell well to the masses?


If people would rather have these "crappy" games, I think the companies would rather have that. And the fact of the matter is the wiiU basically has one good game right now. In one month, the ps4 has sold more than have the sales the wiiU has. I would say that pretty clearly winning. 



drake4 said:
the thing about sales meaning quality is laughable. are you saying all the fad products are quality cause they sold great at some point, then later people realized, it and that product died.

There's just one thing wrong with your thought process. The WII was clearly not a fad otherwise it wouldn't live that long because the definition of a fad fits if a trend only lasts less than 3 years and the WII clearly lived in it's fourth year despite the fact that nintendo brought out nothing in worthwhile 2010.

Guess what about the WII U. Since PS360 gamers are likely the largest base going into next gen, they agree with me that the WII U is an awful console and we even have nintendo fans in this forum agreeing with me that the WII was BETTER than the WII U. Funnily enough, everyone that is calling the WII U a trash console just so happens to be the lowest selling one.