I'm going to stop you right there. It didn't say that the WiiU is a better system overall. It said it's a better system *right now*. As in, if you're going to buy one NOW, it should be the WiiU. Not because it will necessarily be the best system in the future, but because it's the best one at the moment - yes, because of the year head start. It even acknowledges that.

And Wii U sales *are* up, by the way. By something like 600%.

I mention that because a balanced argument would factor that into it. Why? Because despite all of the "doom" articles - and there are MANY of them - Wii U sales have increased quite significantly, showing that the system is nowhere near dead in the water.

God, what a terrible terrible post. I truly tought you were above this Aielyn, i really did. You seemed like a well headed person back when Nintendo is dominating, now you're not much better than a ranting gamespot poster.

The Dreamcast was a cheaper system with FAR better games available when the PS2 first came out, too. It also saw sales jump in a big way around Christmastime...just like most systems do every year no matter how well they're doing overall. And the Gamecube saw a much bigger jump in sales during it's second November than the WiiU. None of that helped the either system gain market share or software support outside of their core fanbases.

And that's the crux of the problem with this argument. These "advantages" are the result of temporary circumstances that can very easily be lost over time--which has happened during several console cycles already. Buying a console is a long-term investment, and right now? The WiiU's prospects look pretty bleak compared to it's competitors. I won't be convinced that the system is worth buying because it just happens to look better for the first couple of months; I expect the situation to look VERY different come next winter.

And selling below Gamecube levels--let alone at the level of the Dreamcast--can't be interpreted as anything more than having a foot in the grave at best. That's the situation the WiiU is still in right now, even with that big jump. Again, almost all consoles sell higher this time of year.

It´s just amazing how any pro-Nintendo article or thread turns into a fanboy war very very fast on these forums...

People here should just learn to have fun.

I'm a Wii U supporter but I will say it again, they are way behind the curve. They need a Achievement system. My girl even plays Xbox more for this reason. It adds value. It's easy, do a stars and coin achievement system.

I think games are already full down that path. The industry is bloated with shooters and a increasing demand for midless M-rated games with realistic graphics and loads of shooting and shooting.  Aside from that, a very few racing, sports and rpg franchises survive, VERY few. Fighting games and platformers have been dissapearing, and the few that still are out are not selling well. Certain genres are practically non-existent on consoles today - puzzle, adventure, simulation, rhythm & music, strategy, aerial combat, board/table games etc.

This paradigm is going to kill the industry any day

It's not, saying it has a software line up is meaningless considering the ps4/x1 only have their launch games. By the end of next year the x1/ps4 line ups should be more impressive then what the wii u despite the number of games coming to the wii u next year.

Wow, this thread went nowhere fast. -_-'

The Wii U may have the better games, but it's a shame it don't have the recognition it deserves

I suspect that you've failed to notice the overarching theme of my posts - the absurdity of the console wars.

I'm not mocking the PS4, or the Xbox One. I'm not criticising their launch lineups. I'm not even suggesting that the Wii U is in any way better than the other systems.

What I'm doing is mocking the console warmongers, who will twist every situation to suit their console war rhetoric. When their system of choice had the highest-rated game of the generation, Metacritic was a holy site, which they'd go to for proof that their system was the greatest. And now, when the system they least like has the highest-rated game of the generation so far, Metacritic is absolute shit, completely meaningless in the face of sales. The same people, though, would endlessly criticise the Just Dance series of games for being "casual crap" (and they'd usually point to metacritic to back up their argument), and hold up games like Bayonetta as far better games.

Mind you, you had comparable people on the other side, too - people who would point to sales numbers as proof of the superiority of the Wii, and dismissing Metacritic as irrelevant, but now point to Metacritic as proof of quality of Wii U games while dismissing sales.

I must say, though, I find it hilarious that you start your reply to me by bashing the Wii, pretty blatantly, then at the end, you claim to agree with my suggestion that we should stop attacking each other, and other gaming systems, and instead just collectively enjoy gaming. And along the way, you claim that I'm somehow the one that is being absurd... when you're the one who calls my opinion "bullshit" for daring to observe that neither the PS4 or Xbox One have actually outsold the Wii U, yet, despite those console warmongers' claims.

The fact is, YOU are a prime example of the problem. I didn't once praise the Wii U, or dismiss anything about the PS4 or Xbox One, in my post, but you felt that you HAD to mock me, and the Wii U, in your response, and go into defense mode over the fact that the PS4 currently has the lowest tie ratio (despite it being an unimportant fact that I didn't even point out, seen only in a list that I was using to demonstrate that Wii U owners are buying games, in spite of the assertions of certain people).

You have yet to point out a single factual error in the article I posted. Instead, you have thrown all sorts of attacks at it, and ME, with words like "clickbait", "flamebait", etc, to deride and dismiss it. Why? Because it doesn't follow the standard line used by console warmongers - because it dares to suggest that the current situation isn't as dire as so many have asserted for Wii U, and that the system with the best-quality titles right now should probably be called the best system of the moment. All of which are entirely reasonable observations - none of which are meant to be conclusive, but all of which are great for reasonable, rational discussion.

So why is there no rational, reasonable discussion about them? Oh, right - because of console warmonger, who can't handle the idea of rational discussion, and instead resort to personal attacks, derision, and complete dismissal of anything that doesn't support their worldview - usually by asserting that those making the alternative arguments are fanboys, stealth advertising, or clickbaiting.

To summarise, I suggest that you have a good look at your own post, and its contents, before throwing accusations at me.