Who said I want to be like him?! We're going off topic now. 

Just cause he was a rude person, doesn't mean his statements were wrong or false. His comments and predictions were usually correct. And why would I be butthurt? I could care less about the sales of ryse, dead rising, and Killzone. I'm not interested in the sales of those games, I just think your comparison between the sales of those games is pointless and as I said that in my very first post in this thread, its not fair comparison. 

What's so hard to understand about good games selling well?

DO you refute this idea??

But when did I ever disagree with that statement? Good games should sell well. KZ, Forza, ryse, and even Knack are probably all good fun games. I never said KZ was a bad game. I've actually never even played any of those games. I said the reason why Killzone was selling better was because it was selling on a console with a bigger userbase, and then supported that claim with the fact that few PS4 launch exclusives were helping its sales since it was less competition for it. I think we've argued too long about this now.  

Uh, the Call of Duty 2 on Xbox 360 was not the Call of Duty 2 people could play on older consoles. It was an entirely different game made by entirely different people.

I don't see what is so hard to understand about people with 2 options for exclusives on one console, picking the flashy FPS over a poorly reviewed kids game. Of course it played a part in Killzone's sales. Just like you are saying, people upgrade consoles to play better looking games. What is better looking and more of a showoff game for a brand new system, Killzone or Knack? It's an easy choice.

Not to mention, the "more to choose from thus lower sales" has been an argument from Playstation 3 enthusiasts on this site for years when it comes to why PS3 exclusives sell a lot less than they probably should.

But in the end, who cares. Here is a simple breakdown of why it outsold the games laid out in the thread title:

1. PS4 sold more. The most logical reasoning. More consoles on the market = more people buying games.
2. Genre. Almost as logical as #1. A FPS, especially at launch, should outsell the other games.
3. Choice. More to choose from on one console = sales slightly more spread out. Also 2 of the games pretty much directly compete with one another based on their genre.

But it's not killzone or knack. It's killzone or cod or bf4. What I'm not getting here, is why people insist that exclusives exist in a vacuum. Nobody MUST buy an exclusive.

Secondly, if "more to choose from" was an accepted logic, then why is it argued? Why is it suddenly being accepted now? Yet everytime it comes up, guess who comes knocking? It's usually xbox fans, and I'm not saying that as an insult, I'm saying the topic usually comes up in reference to sales vs xbox exclusives. Many of those same xbox fans would agree. It's quality that sells, and it has little to do with being an exclusive. The only thing exclusivity does for sales is generate hype. This does lead to increased sales, but it doesn't suddenly make people buy an exclusive over a much better multiplat. They do compete with the same wallets youknow.

As far as "ps4 sold more". Could it not also be said that it sold more because of killzone? Hey maybe launching with a major franchise helped sales. If x1 had launched Halo don't you think x1 sales would be higher too? A lot of people tend to wait for those big exclusive franchises because, "there's no reason to get one now". Maybe launching with one helped. I'm sure you can see the validity in that argument.

But sure, I totally agree that higher install base would directly relate to higher game sales.

PS4 sold more because it launched sooner. Look at the past Killzone sales, it is not a system seller. But at launch, every exclusive game becomes bigger.

That is a good reason why exclusives would sell more systems at launch, but it yet doesn't explain why someone would buy killzone over the two biggest fps franchises out.

Be back while I check the facts on that system seller comment.

EDIT: I fact-checked that comment, and actually both killzones pushed an addition ~75k consoles

Even on 360 alone, COD games sold better than Halo games. Look at MW2 and MW3 sales, and compare Black Ops with Halo Reach. I thought that this would have been obvious

Kane1389 and XxGame4lifexX are you reading each other posts before you post your replies?

It is a shame that Dead Rising 3 hasn't sold better (although it still has time to do so).   It really has been a fun game and better than Ryse in my opinion.  Can't comment on KZ yet, but I've hear much like Ryse it is more "show than go".

Funny thing is, the graphics in DR3 are still great.  I think people who give it a lot of shit haven't actually PLAYED it.  The more I've played the game the more I realize that.  Some of the scenes literally have hundreds and hundreds of zombies on screen at once.  The congestion is unreal and really makes you wonder how you are going to get from point A to B sometimes.  Using cars to get high ground etc. to stay alive.  Flares to move the crowd away from you to clear a path.  To me, it's what they wanted to achieve with DR2 but couldn't because of the hardware (Xbox 360).

Now the inventory system is still rage inducing at times, but I digress.  Overall really fun game.