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Which was wisest?

13 101 18.53%
 
33 305 55.96%
 
Somethign else 36 6.61%
 
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kowenicki said:
bubblegamer said:
kowenicki said:
BeElite said:

Something was proved, you are pretty bad at talking anything gaming as seem by reading your posts and threads.  Im 95% sure of it.  

I love how you form little clubs in homage to me.  Its funny.

You love the attention, don't you? I wouldn't be proud of such ''homage'' if i was you.


You arent me...

But keep working hard.

sense of humour is severely lacking in this place.


So is a sense of self-effacement



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kowenicki said:
bubblegamer said:
kowenicki said:
BeElite said:

Something was proved, you are pretty bad at talking anything gaming as seem by reading your posts and threads.  Im 95% sure of it.  

I love how you form little clubs in homage to me.  Its funny.

You love the attention, don't you? I wouldn't be proud of such ''homage'' if i was you.


You arent me...

But keep working hard.

sense of humour is severely lacking in this place.

Glad you think so, im 95% sure you will bring many lolz to us all.  



DonFerrari said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
DonFerrari said:
AZWification said:

What an amusing necrobump we've got here.


Strange enough the necrombuped haven't commented or defended his point, altough being quite active on the Sony 2B loss thread. Mistery.


Sometimes I have the feeling that someone wishes Sony failure in this market not for hate, but just because a company in such a bad economic situation easily defeating MS prevents them from cherishing the easy illusion that money is almighty. It's like if they think that siding with MS and accepting and helping it establishing a monopoly and a sort of benevolent dictatorship, for some strange transitive property richness would be transferred to them too and it would solve every problem of theirs.

Actually I think that seeing a company going under beating MS so soundly is bad for them, because if almighty and rich MS was bullying Sony they could say they failed in life because they weren't born milionaire... but when poor Sony or small Ninty does a lot better than rich MS it takes out that moneys buy success and nothing else matters excuse.

Besides they jizzing all over themselves thinking of MS money and success as theirselve.

LOL, I tried to be not too harsh, but yes, I guess that amongst those that actually don't both love MS and at the same time hate Sony, those that behave this way for the reason you suggest are more than those that do it for what I hypothesised. I started thinking about my theory seeing some people, both in this forum and elsewhere, that just think that as MS is hugely profitable and has immense cash, then it must be always right, and markets where it fails while competitors succeed just don't count. Quite shortsighted, IMVHO, as if it's undeniable that in the short and mid term MS' two monopolies in PC market grant it immense profit and power, that market, despite not really shrinking (people replacing their PCs decreased drastically, but the total number of PC users is growing anyway thanks to new markets), in the long term will be dwarfed by other markets growing a lot faster, and in those markets MS is a minor player, so it risks losing its power, even if its richness will keep on growing, although at a slower pace.



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Fusioncode said:
JoeTheBro said:
Fusioncode said:
So I wonder if Kowenicki will ever come back in here and admit he was wrong?

He said on his wall that he's just a lurker now.

I don't think he's online enough anymore to see this thread was bumped.

I just saw him posting in the Sony financials thread. 

That's a department where you don't easily meddle with the concerned.



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kowenicki said:

You arent me...

But keep working hard.

sense of humour is severely lacking in this place.

Well, that's a lot of humor that you glanced over here. Gotta lighten up, bro. You can't take every joke so seriously.



Alby_da_Wolf said:

LOL, I tried to be not too harsh, but yes, I guess that amongst those that actually don't both love MS and at the same time hate Sony, those that behave this way for the reason you suggest are more than those that do it for what I hypothesised. I started thinking about my theory seeing some people, both in this forum and elsewhere, that just think that as MS is hugely profitable and has immense cash, then it must be always right, and markets where it fails while competitors succeed just don't count. Quite shortsighted, IMVHO, as if it's undeniable that in the short and mid term MS' two monopolies in PC market grant it immense profit and power, that market, despite not really shrinking (people replacing their PCs decreased drastically, but the total number of PC users is growing anyway thanks to new markets), in the long term will be dwarfed by other markets growing a lot faster, and in those markets MS is a minor player, so it risks losing its power, even if its richness will keep on growing, although at a slower pace.

Yep, totally agree. I have issue when people cannot see or dismiss the important disctinction between how MS and Sony are doing in gaming vs how they're doing overall.



Exile1987 said:
JoeTheBro said:
Fusioncode said:
So I wonder if Kowenicki will ever come back in here and admit he was wrong?

He said on his wall that he's just a lurker now.

I don't think he's online enough anymore to see this thread was bumped.


He became a lurker the day he realised this generation is over, and returns for sony/ms financials.  

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It's very hard to say. What you say makes sense, but it's hard to tell what is the impact of shortage, how much it translates into lost sales, how much it helps building the hype. On the contrary, being free of competition for 10 months, and have a better reputation can clearly translate in domination for 20 countries. I mean, you sell 1.000 more console on USA, so what ? You sell 1.000 in Liechtenstein, you achieved monopoly, and enjoy revenues for the next 5 years, and perhaps forever, without any competition.



I think we can all agree the decision to release in only 13 countries was dumb.
But so was releasing in countries that MS didn't have adequate sales in the previous generation.
However, when we consider the importance of Marketshare vs Sales, especially when the former is more likely to grant the latter than vice versa,13 countries becomes the dumber idea 95% of the time.



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