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Michael-5 said:
XxGame4lifexX said:
Michael-5 said:

Well my local GS, EB Games, Wall-Mart, are all sold out. EBgames.ca/gamestop.ca/bestbuy.ca etc are all sold out. Some retailers online say they have stock, but when you call they are sold out. Are you sure your local gamestop has one? The online stock is inaccurate.

Also on eBay you're right, but $500 + tax is about $570 so the upcharge is only $30. For PS4 the upcharge is about $70, clearly there is a higher demand for PS4.

PS4 is cheaper, and that's one reason why it's selling out where XBO is not. What's your arguement? Did you just agree with me inadvertently?

When i went to my local GS (2 days ago) they had 3 ps4's. Several xbox one consoles but i didnt count. 

I was just saying that a reason why ps4 is selling better is because it's cheaper. Agree? again that is one reason. You can agree to an extent one reason why people perfer one item over the other is simply because of the price. I am talking about casual gamers that dont know squat about specs. Normally they tend to go towards the cheapest item. I've had friends/non friends ask me what the differences are in both. They dont see why they would pay 100$ more for an xbox when they can get a cheaper console. 

I agree that one of the reasons PS4 is selling better is because of the price, yes. That's a model Sony went with where MS made Kinect mandatory.

As for your local GS, that was 2 days ago, and even then the number of PS3's wasn't many. It's probably sold out now, where XBO still has stock. I was just saying that there is no double standard with sales, PS4 was selling poorly last couple weeks because it was sold out. If XBO was sold out and weekly sales were low, I'd say the same thing.

It could have been because of the stock. Who knows how many they had. Microsoft did launch in 13 countries whereas ps4 didn't. 



Did you know ps4 only supports a 2.4 wireless signal?

The xbox one supports a wireless adapter capable of 2.4 - 5.0ghz.

The ONLY next gen console to do so. 

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XxGame4lifexX said:
Michael-5 said:
XxGame4lifexX said:
Michael-5 said:

Well my local GS, EB Games, Wall-Mart, are all sold out. EBgames.ca/gamestop.ca/bestbuy.ca etc are all sold out. Some retailers online say they have stock, but when you call they are sold out. Are you sure your local gamestop has one? The online stock is inaccurate.

Also on eBay you're right, but $500 + tax is about $570 so the upcharge is only $30. For PS4 the upcharge is about $70, clearly there is a higher demand for PS4.

PS4 is cheaper, and that's one reason why it's selling out where XBO is not. What's your arguement? Did you just agree with me inadvertently?

When i went to my local GS (2 days ago) they had 3 ps4's. Several xbox one consoles but i didnt count. 

I was just saying that a reason why ps4 is selling better is because it's cheaper. Agree? again that is one reason. You can agree to an extent one reason why people perfer one item over the other is simply because of the price. I am talking about casual gamers that dont know squat about specs. Normally they tend to go towards the cheapest item. I've had friends/non friends ask me what the differences are in both. They dont see why they would pay 100$ more for an xbox when they can get a cheaper console. 

I agree that one of the reasons PS4 is selling better is because of the price, yes. That's a model Sony went with where MS made Kinect mandatory.

As for your local GS, that was 2 days ago, and even then the number of PS3's wasn't many. It's probably sold out now, where XBO still has stock. I was just saying that there is no double standard with sales, PS4 was selling poorly last couple weeks because it was sold out. If XBO was sold out and weekly sales were low, I'd say the same thing.

It could have been because of the stock. Who knows how many they had. Microsoft did launch in 13 countries whereas ps4 didn't. 

Yea, but you should realize those 20 countries XBO didn't sell in, but PS4 did are small. Denmark, Norway and Finland are only 5-5.5 million each in population, Sweden is 10 million, Switzerland is 8 million. Compare that to 330 million of USA, or the 60-65 million of UK, France, and 45 million in Spain.

Also, just to clarify, if PS4 had more stock, I don't think it would have done that much better. Maybe 5% better for PS4, and 5% less for XBO (I would assume when some people went to the store to see PS4 sold out, they bought an XBO instead).

I think the big thing to take from this though, is PS4 outsold XBO on MS's home turf. PS4 sold better in USA, sold better in UK, and sold better in Australia. I assume Canada too. If Sony can do this, this will hurt MS in the long run, especially if PS4 dominates in EU, Japan, the Middle East, Latin America, and Asia



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pezus said:
Nvm, the graph was misleading. WiiU is quite a ways behind. But One>PS4 still


PS4 is half a million ahead worldwide VS One, and killing One in Europe! Wait the release in Japan, and PS4 will own 

XBox One.  You will see. By the way, be happy for this week.



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This thing is really on fire



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Bliss said:

PS4 is half a million ahead worldwide VS One, and killing One in Europe! Wait the release in Japan, and PS4 will own

XBox One.  You will see. By the way, be happy for this week.

Not just that the rumors are that Sony shipped 500k for Asia launch this week... they expect SOUD OUT... after the expectations are they will annpounce the 3 million milestone.



Michael-5 said:
XxGame4lifexX said:
Michael-5 said:
XxGame4lifexX said:
Michael-5 said:

Well my local GS, EB Games, Wall-Mart, are all sold out. EBgames.ca/gamestop.ca/bestbuy.ca etc are all sold out. Some retailers online say they have stock, but when you call they are sold out. Are you sure your local gamestop has one? The online stock is inaccurate.

Also on eBay you're right, but $500 + tax is about $570 so the upcharge is only $30. For PS4 the upcharge is about $70, clearly there is a higher demand for PS4.

PS4 is cheaper, and that's one reason why it's selling out where XBO is not. What's your arguement? Did you just agree with me inadvertently?

When i went to my local GS (2 days ago) they had 3 ps4's. Several xbox one consoles but i didnt count. 

I was just saying that a reason why ps4 is selling better is because it's cheaper. Agree? again that is one reason. You can agree to an extent one reason why people perfer one item over the other is simply because of the price. I am talking about casual gamers that dont know squat about specs. Normally they tend to go towards the cheapest item. I've had friends/non friends ask me what the differences are in both. They dont see why they would pay 100$ more for an xbox when they can get a cheaper console. 

I agree that one of the reasons PS4 is selling better is because of the price, yes. That's a model Sony went with where MS made Kinect mandatory.

As for your local GS, that was 2 days ago, and even then the number of PS3's wasn't many. It's probably sold out now, where XBO still has stock. I was just saying that there is no double standard with sales, PS4 was selling poorly last couple weeks because it was sold out. If XBO was sold out and weekly sales were low, I'd say the same thing.

It could have been because of the stock. Who knows how many they had. Microsoft did launch in 13 countries whereas ps4 didn't. 

Yea, but you should realize those 20 countries XBO didn't sell in, but PS4 did are small. Denmark, Norway and Finland are only 5-5.5 million each in population, Sweden is 10 million, Switzerland is 8 million. Compare that to 330 million of USA, or the 60-65 million of UK, France, and 45 million in Spain.

Also, just to clarify, if PS4 had more stock, I don't think it would have done that much better. Maybe 5% better for PS4, and 5% less for XBO (I would assume when some people went to the store to see PS4 sold out, they bought an XBO instead).

I think the big thing to take from this though, is PS4 outsold XBO on MS's home turf. PS4 sold better in USA, sold better in UK, and sold better in Australia. I assume Canada too. If Sony can do this, this will hurt MS in the long run, especially if PS4 dominates in EU, Japan, the Middle East, Latin America, and Asia

I highly doubt that. There are some huge exclusive games coming next year for the xbox one that will move consoles. Of course there are alot coming for the ps4 aswell. The xbox one has a bigger space for a price cut. One reason why people didn't buy an xbox one is because of the price and another reason is kinect. I know for a fact when microsoft removes kinect and cuts the price then it will start selling fast. I know alot of people/friends that tell me they are going to wait for a price cut or the removal of kinect. Sony did release earlier and i bet alot of gamers didnt want to wait for the xbox one and bought a ps4 instead. Sony has the upper hand for releasing earlier and at a lower price. Those 2 factors will favor sony from the start and it already is. Xbox one outsould the ps4 this week (based on the charts) even after the higher price tag. (again, price is just 1 reason) 



Did you know ps4 only supports a 2.4 wireless signal?

The xbox one supports a wireless adapter capable of 2.4 - 5.0ghz.

The ONLY next gen console to do so. 

PS4 is just as I expected. Now that they're out of stock and can only produce a million a month, it'll probably jump around between 200k - 300k each week.



XxGame4lifexX said:
Michael-5 said:

Yea, but you should realize those 20 countries XBO didn't sell in, but PS4 did are small. Denmark, Norway and Finland are only 5-5.5 million each in population, Sweden is 10 million, Switzerland is 8 million. Compare that to 330 million of USA, or the 60-65 million of UK, France, and 45 million in Spain.

Also, just to clarify, if PS4 had more stock, I don't think it would have done that much better. Maybe 5% better for PS4, and 5% less for XBO (I would assume when some people went to the store to see PS4 sold out, they bought an XBO instead).

I think the big thing to take from this though, is PS4 outsold XBO on MS's home turf. PS4 sold better in USA, sold better in UK, and sold better in Australia. I assume Canada too. If Sony can do this, this will hurt MS in the long run, especially if PS4 dominates in EU, Japan, the Middle East, Latin America, and Asia

I highly doubt that. There are some huge exclusive games coming next year for the xbox one that will move consoles. Of course there are alot coming for the ps4 aswell. The xbox one has a bigger space for a price cut. One reason why people didn't buy an xbox one is because of the price and another reason is kinect. I know for a fact when microsoft removes kinect and cuts the price then it will start selling fast. I know alot of people/friends that tell me they are going to wait for a price cut or the removal of kinect. Sony did release earlier and i bet alot of gamers didnt want to wait for the xbox one and bought a ps4 instead. Sony has the upper hand for releasing earlier and at a lower price. Those 2 factors will favor sony from the start and it already is. Xbox one outsould the ps4 this week (based on the charts) even after the higher price tag. (again, price is just 1 reason) 

Doubt what? Do you really think Microsoft if going to cut the price of the XBO so early, and do you think Sony won't cut their price in response? I remember reading an article that Sony and MS both loose money per console sold, and MS looses about $10-$15 more per console (can't remember).

There is a rumor that MS is planning on releasing a Kinect free model, and the Kinect sensor is a bit over 1/3rd the price, so if that's the case, we might a a budget $350 XBO. I'm not sure if MS will go that route, but I think they need to to stand a chance against PS4.

XBO sold better this week, but there are so many factors in play. These two consoles haven't really stabilized in terms of weekly sales, and since XBO launched a week later, there could still be some hype for it.

Anyway this is still going to be a console war, not a domination like the PS2 had. It's just I don't see PS4 and XBO being neck and neck in terms of worldwide sales, not like PS3 and 360 were. I think there will be a real battle in USA, and XBO might even win. Like you said XBO is getting a lot of exclusives next year, and the bulk of them I say appeal more to US gamers then Europeans (Still like Halo and Titanfall). Where's PS4 is looking to get games which appeal to all regeons (Uncharted, InFamous, Yakuza)

Anyway good talk.



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Michael-5 said:
XxGame4lifexX said:
Michael-5 said:

Yea, but you should realize those 20 countries XBO didn't sell in, but PS4 did are small. Denmark, Norway and Finland are only 5-5.5 million each in population, Sweden is 10 million, Switzerland is 8 million. Compare that to 330 million of USA, or the 60-65 million of UK, France, and 45 million in Spain.

Also, just to clarify, if PS4 had more stock, I don't think it would have done that much better. Maybe 5% better for PS4, and 5% less for XBO (I would assume when some people went to the store to see PS4 sold out, they bought an XBO instead).

I think the big thing to take from this though, is PS4 outsold XBO on MS's home turf. PS4 sold better in USA, sold better in UK, and sold better in Australia. I assume Canada too. If Sony can do this, this will hurt MS in the long run, especially if PS4 dominates in EU, Japan, the Middle East, Latin America, and Asia

I highly doubt that. There are some huge exclusive games coming next year for the xbox one that will move consoles. Of course there are alot coming for the ps4 aswell. The xbox one has a bigger space for a price cut. One reason why people didn't buy an xbox one is because of the price and another reason is kinect. I know for a fact when microsoft removes kinect and cuts the price then it will start selling fast. I know alot of people/friends that tell me they are going to wait for a price cut or the removal of kinect. Sony did release earlier and i bet alot of gamers didnt want to wait for the xbox one and bought a ps4 instead. Sony has the upper hand for releasing earlier and at a lower price. Those 2 factors will favor sony from the start and it already is. Xbox one outsould the ps4 this week (based on the charts) even after the higher price tag. (again, price is just 1 reason) 

Doubt what? Do you really think Microsoft if going to cut the price of the XBO so early, and do you think Sony won't cut their price in response? I remember reading an article that Sony and MS both loose money per console sold, and MS looses about $10-$15 more per console (can't remember).

There is a rumor that MS is planning on releasing a Kinect free model, and the Kinect sensor is a bit over 1/3rd the price, so if that's the case, we might a a budget $350 XBO. I'm not sure if MS will go that route, but I think they need to to stand a chance against PS4.

XBO sold better this week, but there are so many factors in play. These two consoles haven't really stabilized in terms of weekly sales, and since XBO launched a week later, there could still be some hype for it.

Anyway this is still going to be a console war, not a domination like the PS2 had. It's just I don't see PS4 and XBO being neck and neck in terms of worldwide sales, not like PS3 and 360 were. I think there will be a real battle in USA, and XBO might even win. Like you said XBO is getting a lot of exclusives next year, and the bulk of them I say appeal more to US gamers then Europeans (Still like Halo and Titanfall). Where's PS4 is looking to get games which appeal to all regeons (Uncharted, InFamous, Yakuza)

Anyway good talk.

I doubt that sony will beat microsoft in the usa in the long run. Both of them can have a price cut next year but i was saying microsoft has a bigger chance of doing it first since the console costs more. I remember reading an article where microsoft was breaking even with the xbox one. No money was being lost. I heard that rumor of a new xbox version aswell. It could be a version without kinect and a bigger HDD for $400 who knows. I have a feeling titanfall will be a huge selling games like halo and its gonna move consoles. Plus this time around microsoft has alot more 1st party studios and we all know games move consoles. That will have an impact in the sales aswell. I believe thats the reason why ps3 sold out the xbox 360. All those exclusives made people buy a ps3. This gen is gonna be better than the previous. More exclusives for both and bother have better hardware. If you dont own both you will miss out on alot of great exclusives. 



Did you know ps4 only supports a 2.4 wireless signal?

The xbox one supports a wireless adapter capable of 2.4 - 5.0ghz.

The ONLY next gen console to do so.