| kirby007 said: And you mean to say that sony doesn't lie about their numbers? HA, who knows what they lied about..... i find this theory very one sided and weak |
Why wouldn't you find it weak, is there anyone expecting you to claim otherwise? You're way too obvious for that.
Sony at least, took 3 days the time before they came out with their statement.
pezus said:
What? "IMO ps4 overtracked xbox undertracked just because etho claims otherwise" -kirby007 |
Do you remember my 1.6 million xbox one figure back in september?
I'll clarify it incase you missed it based on production and timeframe i calculated that microsoft would have shipped 1.6 million One's during the launch window of 22 november. and guess what on 30 november how much has the one sold according to vgc. 1.6 fucking million. coincedence?
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and my ps4 claim is just as solid as ethos 360 claim
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If the XB1 has sold alot more than 1 million MS would have said it as such. We are on a site devoted to tracking sales and there are still people who cant figure this out? If a company says it sold over a number, it means it was just barely over. if a company sells 1.25 million, the PR guy would be fired if he just said "over a million". You never low ball your own numbers. you give the highest possible increment, 1 million, 1.1M, 1.2 etc.. especially since the Sony only said 1 million. if Microsoft got even 1 unit higher then 1.1M they would have been shouting it from the roof tops
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pezus said:
I do vaguely remember it. Don't see how that's relevant, though. In fact, I'd say it only detracts from your own argument, where you said the One was undertracked. Ethomaz claimed nothing about 360. And to be fair, he is going off what Pachter said...in this thread. Of course it's possible that he isn't right about the One, but the PS4 is pretty much a given. So, no...it's not as solid. |
you know with 360 i meant the One.
about Pachter well honestly i take him with a pinch of salt half of us can do a better job then that guy
and the rest is just based on the fact that sony doesn't lie..... and that only microsoft spins the facts
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kirby007 said: it was reported as over a million within 24h, so this estimate of yours is based on the bare minimum. besides you don't also base this on the "confirmed" yield issues.... right? right? |
Bare minimum? 936k + 100k is already over 1 million.
Tell me how MS knows how much they sold before the end of the day? Before any sales was made lol.
And you see the difference between shipments... sales... etc... I'm glab MS announced they reach 2 million sales last week... ohhhhh wait... they are facing production issues.
kirby007 said:
you know with 360 i meant the One. about Pachter well honestly i take him with a pinch of salt half of us can do a better job then that guy and the rest is just based on the fact that sony doesn't lie..... and that only microsoft spins the facts |
| DD_Bwest said: If the XB1 has sold alot more than 1 million MS would have said it as such. We are on a site devoted to tracking sales and there are still people who cant figure this out? If a company says it sold over a number, it means it was just barely over. if a company sells 1.25 million, the PR guy would be fired if he just said "over a million". You never low ball your own numbers. you give the highest possible increment, 1 million, 1.1M, 1.2 etc.. especially since the Sony only said 1 million. if Microsoft got even 1 unit higher then 1.1M they would have been shouting it from the roof tops |
In MS case...
Over 66 million sold = 65.4m shipped
Over 80 million sold = 79.6m shipped
PS. I didn't get the correct numbers but you understand.
Now how can a company says "over 1 million in 24 hours" 8 hours before 24 hours?
ethomaz said:
In MS case... Over 66 million sold = 65.4m shipped PS. I didn't get the correct numbers but you understand. |
lol just further proof. No onelow balls their own numbers, especially when in a massive PR battle about which is hotter and more popular
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No point people getting into arguments, it will become clear on Thursday.
Of course people were suggesting that only XboxOne had stock on BF.. and people believed that would cause Sony some issues. I believe some of that, but I also believe that Sony are also having to ship consoles out to those people who pre-ordered, some shops will not see any of that stock, because it goes straight out.
I read something somewhere that in the USA 60% of all PS4 stock is aligned to Gamestop (I think it was GS)... you can also imagine that Amazon have had a large amount of stock still on order.
Of course this will mean nothing if Sony cannot make the consoles quick enough.
Anyway I look forward to Thursday, as it will at least start to answer some of those questions.
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All launch estimates are really guesses at this point. We have the initial announcements and then just guesses at supply. I wouldn't put too much stock in Patcher or VGC numbers right now.
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