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EdHieron on 08 December 2013
anonymunchy said:
EdHieron said:

I actually really like what I've seen of Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze and I loved the original Donkey Kong Country in 1994 ( I never played the Wii Version though or at least only for a couple of minutes at Wal~Mart since I never bought a Wii ); however, after Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze and Yarn Yoshi ( since you've already announced it ) please no more 2D platformers for the rest of the 8th Generation, Nintendo. This is not 1985 or even 1994. Prove that you can actually make some modern games for a change ( and I'm not talking about updates to Wii Sports or Wii Fit).

Whats's your definition of a modern game?


A gametype that's not been around since Pitfall and Keystone Kapers.  For Nintendo it would be something they've bever done before in the modern age like an In House game that's heavy on the sex and violence and mature storytelling.



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curl-6 on 08 December 2013
EdHieron said:
anonymunchy said:
EdHieron said:

I actually really like what I've seen of Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze and I loved the original Donkey Kong Country in 1994 ( I never played the Wii Version though or at least only for a couple of minutes at Wal~Mart since I never bought a Wii ); however, after Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze and Yarn Yoshi ( since you've already announced it ) please no more 2D platformers for the rest of the 8th Generation, Nintendo. This is not 1985 or even 1994. Prove that you can actually make some modern games for a change ( and I'm not talking about updates to Wii Sports or Wii Fit).

Whats's your definition of a modern game?


A gametype that's not been around since Pitfall and Keystone Kapers.  For Nintendo it would be something they've bever done before in the modern age like an In House game that's heavy on the sex and violence and mature storytelling.

Sex and violence are not keystones of a modern game. They've been around since the 90s, as have FPS games, driving games, action adventure games...



osed125 on 08 December 2013
EdHieron said:
anonymunchy said:

Whats's your definition of a modern game?


A gametype that's not been around since Pitfall and Keystone Kapers.  For Nintendo it would be something they've bever done before in the modern age like an In House game that's heavy on the sex and violence and mature storytelling.

Sex and violence =/= mature. One could argue that Majora's Mask have a more deep and mature story than 90% of AAA tittles today. Kinda sad Nintendo hasn't done something like Majora's Mask story again.



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osed125 on 08 December 2013
curl-6 said:
EdHieron said:


A gametype that's not been around since Pitfall and Keystone Kapers.  For Nintendo it would be something they've bever done before in the modern age like an In House game that's heavy on the sex and violence and mature storytelling.

Sex and violence are not keystones of a modern game. They've been around since the 90s, as have FPS games, driving games, action adventure games...

What a game needs is explosions like Michael Bay movies to become modern...and have Megan Fox.



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curl-6 on 08 December 2013
oniyide said:

If im expected to spend 150-300 on your new console and the 40-50 dollars they better damn well be at least AS good as games ive already played and own for years. Otherwise what is the point? I might as well just play either 3 or World again for the umpteenth time. Hell there not even close

Limbo, Braid just to name two of my faves. Sure they werent as long but that is my point. THe games you mentioned theyve been making those for decades, it comes to a point where you are going to get diminishing returns quality wise IMHO. We are already seeing that with the 2d Mario series. Not that i dont like Ninty platformers, but where are the NEW ones? Where are the new ideas, cause frankly im only seeing them done OUTSIDE of Ninty's own franchises.

PS4/Xbone ask for a lot more money yet their major entries seems to be steps DOWN from games we've played and owned for years. May as well just play Killzone 2 again by that logic.

Mario, DKC, have not remained the same for decades though; Mario Galaxy and DKCR, for exmaple, are unlike any of their predecessors. And while they're good for Indie titles, Limbo and Braid can't stand up to full-fledged platformers made by larger experienced teams.



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oniyide on 08 December 2013
curl-6 said:
oniyide said:

If im expected to spend 150-300 on your new console and the 40-50 dollars they better damn well be at least AS good as games ive already played and own for years. Otherwise what is the point? I might as well just play either 3 or World again for the umpteenth time. Hell there not even close

Limbo, Braid just to name two of my faves. Sure they werent as long but that is my point. THe games you mentioned theyve been making those for decades, it comes to a point where you are going to get diminishing returns quality wise IMHO. We are already seeing that with the 2d Mario series. Not that i dont like Ninty platformers, but where are the NEW ones? Where are the new ideas, cause frankly im only seeing them done OUTSIDE of Ninty's own franchises.

PS4/Xbone ask for a lot more money yet their major entries seems to be steps DOWN from games we've played and owned for years. May as well just play Killzone 2 again by that logic.

Mario, DKC, have not remained the same for decades though; Mario Galaxy and DKCR, for exmaple, are unlike any of their predecessors. And while they're good for Indie titles, Limbo and Braid can't stand up to full-fledged platformers made by larger experienced teams.

Can you give me some examples? cause honestly right now it seems like you are just talking from your butt. Killzone 3 is a better game than 2 and that was withing the same generation. Enlighten me on these entries? You dont even own a PS4 or Xone or PS360 for that matter so im curious.

No indies cant but they are still showing more progress and omph than what ive seen from a good chunk of Nintys own 2d platformers. 3d mario seems to be the only thing they care about actually pushing and doing something cool with. Look at the recent 2d marios and tell me im wrong. DKCR is not that much different than past DKC games, besides graphics what did they really add? Cause i have that game and it aint that much different. At the very least indies are trying to add some different aesthetics and gameplay elements into the genre, what has 2d mario added? and dont say MP that has been done for years.



EdHieron on 08 December 2013
osed125 said:
curl-6 said:
EdHieron said:


A gametype that's not been around since Pitfall and Keystone Kapers.  For Nintendo it would be something they've bever done before in the modern age like an In House game that's heavy on the sex and violence and mature storytelling.

Sex and violence are not keystones of a modern game. They've been around since the 90s, as have FPS games, driving games, action adventure games...

What a game needs is explosions like Michael Bay movies to become modern...and have Megan Fox.


Hopefully, Sony and Microsoft will put Nintendo out of their misery and we won't be having these kind of conversations next gen.



curl-6 on 08 December 2013
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
oniyide said:

If im expected to spend 150-300 on your new console and the 40-50 dollars they better damn well be at least AS good as games ive already played and own for years. Otherwise what is the point? I might as well just play either 3 or World again for the umpteenth time. Hell there not even close

Limbo, Braid just to name two of my faves. Sure they werent as long but that is my point. THe games you mentioned theyve been making those for decades, it comes to a point where you are going to get diminishing returns quality wise IMHO. We are already seeing that with the 2d Mario series. Not that i dont like Ninty platformers, but where are the NEW ones? Where are the new ideas, cause frankly im only seeing them done OUTSIDE of Ninty's own franchises.

PS4/Xbone ask for a lot more money yet their major entries seems to be steps DOWN from games we've played and owned for years. May as well just play Killzone 2 again by that logic.

Mario, DKC, have not remained the same for decades though; Mario Galaxy and DKCR, for exmaple, are unlike any of their predecessors. And while they're good for Indie titles, Limbo and Braid can't stand up to full-fledged platformers made by larger experienced teams.

Can you give me some examples? cause honestly right now it seems like you are just talking from your butt. Killzone 3 is a better game than 2 and that was withing the same generation. Enlighten me on these entries? You dont even own a PS4 or Xone or PS360 for that matter so im curious.

No indies cant but they are still showing more progress and omph than what ive seen from a good chunk of Nintys own 2d platformers. 3d mario seems to be the only thing they care about actually pushing and doing something cool with. Look at the recent 2d marios and tell me im wrong. DKCR is not that much different than past DKC games, besides graphics what did they really add? Cause i have that game and it aint that much different. At the very least indies are trying to add some different aesthetics and gameplay elements into the genre, what has 2d mario added? and dont say MP that has been done for years.

PS4/Xbone's lineups so far don't seem to be blowing people away. Does that mean we should all just stick with our PS3s/360s? If you should only ever play the best games ever of their genre, you're going to be limited to about 30 games in all of history.

DKCR's dynamic environments set it apart from its SNES prequels, significantly changing up gameplay.



osed125 on 08 December 2013
EdHieron said:
osed125 said:

What a game needs is explosions like Michael Bay movies to become modern...and have Megan Fox.


Hopefully, Sony and Microsoft will put Nintendo out of their misery and we won't be having these kind of conversations next gen.

What misery?



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curl-6 on 08 December 2013
EdHieron said:
osed125 said:
curl-6 said:
EdHieron said:


A gametype that's not been around since Pitfall and Keystone Kapers.  For Nintendo it would be something they've bever done before in the modern age like an In House game that's heavy on the sex and violence and mature storytelling.

Sex and violence are not keystones of a modern game. They've been around since the 90s, as have FPS games, driving games, action adventure games...

What a game needs is explosions like Michael Bay movies to become modern...and have Megan Fox.


Hopefully, Sony and Microsoft will put Nintendo out of their misery and we won't be having these kind of conversations next gen.

Sex and violence in games generally make the games more immature than mature. Gratuitous nudity, unnecessary gore and swearing, these are the hallmarks of 12-15 year old boys, not adults.