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osed125 said:
EdHieron said:
osed125 said:

What a game needs is explosions like Michael Bay movies to become modern...and have Megan Fox.


Hopefully, Sony and Microsoft will put Nintendo out of their misery and we won't be having these kind of conversations next gen.

What misery?


The misery of not having come up with anything new since 1987.



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EdHieron said:
osed125 said:
EdHieron said:
osed125 said:

What a game needs is explosions like Michael Bay movies to become modern...and have Megan Fox.


Hopefully, Sony and Microsoft will put Nintendo out of their misery and we won't be having these kind of conversations next gen.

What misery?


The misery of not having come up with anything new since 1987.

You obviously haven't played any Nintendo games since 1987.



EdHieron said:
osed125 said:

What misery?


The misery of not having come up with anything new since 1987.

Umm..sure why not.



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curl-6 said:
EdHieron said:
osed125 said:
curl-6 said:
EdHieron said:


A gametype that's not been around since Pitfall and Keystone Kapers.  For Nintendo it would be something they've bever done before in the modern age like an In House game that's heavy on the sex and violence and mature storytelling.

Sex and violence are not keystones of a modern game. They've been around since the 90s, as have FPS games, driving games, action adventure games...

What a game needs is explosions like Michael Bay movies to become modern...and have Megan Fox.


Hopefully, Sony and Microsoft will put Nintendo out of their misery and we won't be having these kind of conversations next gen.

Sex and violence in games generally make the games more immature than mature. Gratuitous nudity, unnecessary gore and swearing, these are the hallmarks of 12-15 year old boys, not adults.


Funny how tonight's History Channel movie "Bonnie and Clyde" is going to have as much of all of that as television allows yet it's aimed squarely at adults.  Oh, yeah and the last time I checked you're supposed to be 18 to read Playboy.



oniyide said:

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No indies cant but they are still showing more progress and omph than what ive seen from a good chunk of Nintys own 2d platformers. 3d mario seems to be the only thing they care about actually pushing and doing something cool with. Look at the recent 2d marios and tell me im wrong. DKCR is not that much different than past DKC games, besides graphics what did they really add? Cause i have that game and it aint that much different. At the very least indies are trying to add some different aesthetics and gameplay elements into the genre, what has 2d mario added? and dont say MP that has been done for years.

Yes, I can and will tell you you're wrong. 'Donkey Kong Country Returns', 'Super Mario 3D Land' and 'New Super Mario Bros. 2' are all games I've played extensively. They're better than previous games because they have better graphics, tighter controls, better level design, greater length, more diverse gameplay and level design, and better all round presentation. Now, what are you expecting from a modern platformer that you're not getting? What innovation are you expecting? Moreover, what innovation are you getting in FPS's, Open World, 3D Brawlers, Racing, or Sports Games that make them so much more viable and acceptable as "modern" games.



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EdHieron said:
curl-6 said:

Sex and violence in games generally make the games more immature than mature. Gratuitous nudity, unnecessary gore and swearing, these are the hallmarks of 12-15 year old boys, not adults.


Funny how tonight's History Channel movie "Bonnie and Clyde" is going to have as much of all of that as television allows yet it's aimed squarely at adults.  Oh, yeah and the last time I checked you're supposed to be 18 to read Playboy.

Kids can watch porn on the internet, that doesn't make those kids mature.



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EdHieron said:

Funny how tonight's History Channel movie "Bonnie and Clyde" is going to have as much of all of that as television allows yet it's aimed squarely at adults.  Oh, yeah and the last time I checked you're supposed to be 18 to read Playboy.

Video games featuring these things are not the same. They do not have one iota of the maturity of Bonnie and Clyde. They're not targeting adults, (at least most aren't) they're targeting teenagers who want to be adults.

And since when have teenagers ever respected age limits? Drinking, smoking, porn, violent movies and video games, kids explore these things well before society decides they are ready for them. The gaming industry exploits this.



The only console games Nintendo should announce are the ones they are making for the PS4/XB1.



X would have been the best. Zelda and Smash are great but we've seen those before. Something original would have been the slam dunk but they'll save it for the "Nintendo Direct" which is sad.



curl-6 said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
oniyide said:

If im expected to spend 150-300 on your new console and the 40-50 dollars they better damn well be at least AS good as games ive already played and own for years. Otherwise what is the point? I might as well just play either 3 or World again for the umpteenth time. Hell there not even close

Limbo, Braid just to name two of my faves. Sure they werent as long but that is my point. THe games you mentioned theyve been making those for decades, it comes to a point where you are going to get diminishing returns quality wise IMHO. We are already seeing that with the 2d Mario series. Not that i dont like Ninty platformers, but where are the NEW ones? Where are the new ideas, cause frankly im only seeing them done OUTSIDE of Ninty's own franchises.

PS4/Xbone ask for a lot more money yet their major entries seems to be steps DOWN from games we've played and owned for years. May as well just play Killzone 2 again by that logic.

Mario, DKC, have not remained the same for decades though; Mario Galaxy and DKCR, for exmaple, are unlike any of their predecessors. And while they're good for Indie titles, Limbo and Braid can't stand up to full-fledged platformers made by larger experienced teams.

Can you give me some examples? cause honestly right now it seems like you are just talking from your butt. Killzone 3 is a better game than 2 and that was withing the same generation. Enlighten me on these entries? You dont even own a PS4 or Xone or PS360 for that matter so im curious.

No indies cant but they are still showing more progress and omph than what ive seen from a good chunk of Nintys own 2d platformers. 3d mario seems to be the only thing they care about actually pushing and doing something cool with. Look at the recent 2d marios and tell me im wrong. DKCR is not that much different than past DKC games, besides graphics what did they really add? Cause i have that game and it aint that much different. At the very least indies are trying to add some different aesthetics and gameplay elements into the genre, what has 2d mario added? and dont say MP that has been done for years.

PS4/Xbone's lineups so far don't seem to be blowing people away. Does that mean we should all just stick with our PS3s/360s? If you should only ever play the best games ever of their genre, you're going to be limited to about 30 games in all of history.

DKCR's dynamic environments set it apart from its SNES prequels, significantly changing up gameplay.

THats a bunch of crap and you know it. LMAO your not even trying. PS4 AND Xbone had much better launches than Wii U. They cant even keep these systems on the shelves. THe preorder numbers speak for themselves, theres like one or two Wii U games in the charts. Unless you have some other reason why people are rushing out to buy these systems im going to call BS

dynamic environments? you mean being launched into the background? that doesnt change anything you just went from one platform to another, hell you barely have any control with the barrel parts.