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naruball said:
carlos710 said:
Seece said:
What do you want them to say??? Why do you expect Vita sales to be higher than that?

Based on the past year or so is easy to say that we didn't expected much from the vita. But before the HW was released everybody thought that it was going to be the 3DS killer.

I see this posted every time there's a vita related discussion and I'd like to know who that "everybody" was. I'm assuming you're all referring to one user, because the vast majority of people posting here did not believe for a second that it'd be the 3ds killer. At best they were predicting higher sales than psp.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/10/22/the-playstation-vita-is-set-to-succeed

This guy have it believe and a lot of another people.



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Asdrendeluxe said:
naruball said:
carlos710 said:
Seece said:
What do you want them to say??? Why do you expect Vita sales to be higher than that?

Based on the past year or so is easy to say that we didn't expected much from the vita. But before the HW was released everybody thought that it was going to be the 3DS killer.

I see this posted every time there's a vita related discussion and I'd like to know who that "everybody" was. I'm assuming you're all referring to one user, because the vast majority of people posting here did not believe for a second that it'd be the 3ds killer. At best they were predicting higher sales than psp.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/10/22/the-playstation-vita-is-set-to-succeed

This guy have it believe and a lot of another people.

I'm sure there are a few exceptions, most of them from blind harcore fans. But that's what they were. Exceptions. Saying that "everybody thought that it was going to be the 3DS killer" is plain wrong. I think it was someone from gamespot who said that the vita wouldn't make it to the west because of how badly it was selling in Japan. Both opinions/predictions were equally bad. Anyone who's followed the numbers even the last 5 years would know that this was extremely unlikely.



KHlover said:
Kresnik said:
KHlover said:
Aerys said:

Murasaki Baby No release date given and I don't think the studio is 1st party - feel free to correct me here


- Bayonetta 2 (2014)


Discrepancy detected.

Sorry, honest mistake.

 

@Aerys: Why would I want to troll a console I own myself? That doesn't make any sense.


You wouldnt be the first... People are weird sometimes.

 

 



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Viktor said:

Since some seem to deny that part of the press and gaming industry really thought PSV could beat the 3DS here´s a link (there had been quit a lot similar ones back in 2011).

EA:
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/08/ea-exec-the-ps-vita-has-a-better-chance-than-3ds/

and the obvious troll Pachter

http://mynintendonews.com/2011/07/02/nintendo-3ds-pachter-believes-playstation-vita-will-rob-nintendos-market-share/

 

 

Sometimes, the press and gamind industry and gamers are wrong.

Before the Wii U , everybody thought Nintendo would lead the generation.

after the release, in 2013, everybody thought Orbis and 720 would sell at least as bas as Wii U and that consoles market was dead.

everybody was wrong.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Viktor said:

It´s really interesting to read threads like this. It seems to some people Sony can´t do no wrong and when they fail it´s always the fault of someone else. While quite honestly Sony really fucked up spectacularly, that´s highlighted by PSVs hardware sales in Japan where every excuse that has been used in favour of Sony sounds ridiculous since there handhelds have been far more popular than consoles for some years now.

The main problem is quite clear unappealing games and lackluster Sony support for the system.

I don't get why you single out Sony fans. If you visit the official psvita thread you may notice that most people who post there are mad at sony and point out how badly they've fucked up. Again, there are very few exceptions (can't think of anyone at the moment apart from the guy who made a thread about vita outselling 3ds even after there was a 20m+ gap and vita was almost dead). But if we're gonna generalize based on exceptions, why not talk about Ninty fans and how 3rd parties screw ninty up and how they "sabbotage themselves out of malice"? Does that sound reasonable to you? It doesn't to me, but saying that ninty fans think that "Nintendo can do no wrong" would be a terrible generalization, as there are several threads from Ninty fans pointing out all of Ninty's faults.

Again, what is it with the crusade against Sony fans?



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Viktor said:

It´s really interesting to read threads like this. It seems to some people Sony can´t do no wrong and when they fail it´s always the fault of someone else. While quite honestly Sony really fucked up spectacularly, that´s highlighted by PSVs hardware sales in Japan where every excuse that has been used in favour of Sony sounds ridiculous since there handhelds have been far more popular than consoles for some years now.

The main problem is quite clear unappealing games and lackluster Sony support for the system.


In my opinion, that's not the problem. There are many appealing games. And Sony did support the system with major system sellers like Uncharted, Resistence, Call of Duty (having their own team making one), Little Big Planet, Killzone, Wipeout, Gravity Rush (becoming a vita game, despite being developed for ps3), Soul Sacrifice, since they no longer had a MH, and even asking the team behind Little Big Planet to make a new ip for the system. It did get support, but lost MOMENTUM. It is not perceived as the cool item to have, like a ps4, a 3ds or an iphone. Just look at 9gag. It's all they are talking/posting about. If there was a clever campain that made people want to have one, it'd be flying off the shelves. Again, just my opinion: games matter far less than people around here believe.



Soundwave said:

What's SCEA supposed to?

The Sony audience doesn't give a sh*t about handhelds. They are teenage/college age males who game at home on the big screen and want a PS4 or XBox, not a Sony Game Boy.

PSP falling off the map in North America for years prior was already a tip off. Everyone has smartphones here now too so if you ever get an urge to game for 10 minutes on the road, smart phone scratch that itch. The big gun games are for consoles.

Besides I think there still is a huge stigma about playing handhelds in public. No one says anything about smartphone games because smartphones are more of a social media device. No one wants to be the weird guy on the bus "playing video games in the corner". Is it a double standard with smartphones? Sure. But it still definitely is there. 

This fucking guy here speaks the truth. I'm 29 years old, why the BLEEP would I want a handheld? I just got a tablet, that's all I need for mobility entertainment.

The only reason the 3Ds is selling well is because children of a certain school age still use them without said stigma. It's okay if you're in grade school to use it on the school bus or when on vacation. 

 



Rychussnik said:
Soundwave said:
pezus said:
Soundwave said:

What's SCEA supposed to?

The Sony audience doesn't give a sh*t about handhelds. They are teenage/college age males who game at home on the big screen and want a PS4 or XBox, not a Sony Game Boy.

PSP falling off the map in North America for years prior was already a tip off. Everyone has smartphones here now too so if you ever get an urge to game for 10 minutes on the road, smart phone scratch that itch. The big gun games are for consoles.

Besides I think there still is a huge stigma about playing handhelds in public. No one says anything about smartphone games because smartphones are more of a social media device. No one wants to be the weird guy on the bus "playing video games in the corner". Is it a double standard with smartphones? Sure. But it still definitely is there. 

Tell that to PSP, which sold around 80m...

Before the smartphone revolution really kicked in. 

All teenagers/adults have a smartphone, that's killing the Vita. Nintendo just has their go to market with kids who are still a few years off from having their first phone. 


3ds sells to alot of  diffrent groups of people, not just little kids...

But mainly kids. That console has very few adult oriented games and the ones it has generally sold pretty poorly(not I said GENERALLY before i get a bunch of examples.) The new 2DS is the main reason for this huge influx in sales. I think you wild agree that this model is mainly for kids. Just ask Nintendo. They said it was for kids 4 to 7 years if I remember correctly. That market is HUGE and with that low price point, there was no chance that the 2DS wouldn't sell a ton.



Gremdude said:
Rychussnik said:
Soundwave said:
pezus said:
Soundwave said:

What's SCEA supposed to?

The Sony audience doesn't give a sh*t about handhelds. They are teenage/college age males who game at home on the big screen and want a PS4 or XBox, not a Sony Game Boy.

PSP falling off the map in North America for years prior was already a tip off. Everyone has smartphones here now too so if you ever get an urge to game for 10 minutes on the road, smart phone scratch that itch. The big gun games are for consoles.

Besides I think there still is a huge stigma about playing handhelds in public. No one says anything about smartphone games because smartphones are more of a social media device. No one wants to be the weird guy on the bus "playing video games in the corner". Is it a double standard with smartphones? Sure. But it still definitely is there. 

Tell that to PSP, which sold around 80m...

Before the smartphone revolution really kicked in. 

All teenagers/adults have a smartphone, that's killing the Vita. Nintendo just has their go to market with kids who are still a few years off from having their first phone. 


3ds sells to alot of  diffrent groups of people, not just little kids...

But mainly kids. That console has very few adult oriented games and the ones it has generally sold pretty poorly(not I said GENERALLY before i get a bunch of examples.) The new 2DS is the main reason for this huge influx in sales. I think you wild agree that this model is mainly for kids. Just ask Nintendo. They said it was for kids 4 to 7 years if I remember correctly. That market is HUGE and with that low price point, there was no chance that the 2DS wouldn't sell a ton.

3ds has a lot of games adults like games..

And i bet anything.. that games like mariokart, mario and  donkey kong.. appeal to a lot more grown ups than call of duty and killzone type of game..



Nintendo have doing research what the audience of Pokemon is in japan. Believe it ore not it is students. Dont come with your steretoype. Jes Nintendo have children adult and all demographic type games. Not only Children.



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