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Goatseye on 04 December 2013
Figgycal said:

Even in 2008, the average price of Blu-Ray players were $300 dollars. Finding one for 100 bucks was, I'd say impossible.

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RG3Hunna on 04 December 2013

DVD Drive = scratched discs, less quality picture, less storage meaning multiple discs for big games(i.e gtav) , so if you lose a discs you're SOL.

Blu Ray Drive = scratch resistant discs, HD picture quality, Vast amount of storage so you can carry big games on 1 disc

This was innovation in the game industry that pushed gaming forward for the better.



Goatseye on 04 December 2013
jamesmarkus87 said:
The only difference is that Blu-ray is amazing while Kinect is a complete piece of garbage.

I would say the opposite also my BD player is collecting more dust than the ones on the store shelves.



chapset on 04 December 2013

cheapest blu-ray player at launch



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Mr Puggsly on 04 December 2013
Akvod said:


But the point against Kinect isn't just about price. It's also about the perceived lack of utility with the technology for gamers.

 

Agreed.

I argue Bluray in PS3 wasn't necessary, it was very expensive at the time and did little to actually improve the gaming experience. An expense device that doesn't improve the gaming experience... its no wonder why so many people went to the 360.

I fear Kinect is doing the same on X1. Its an expensive device the average consumer may not and it will do little to improve the average gaming experience. Although, I feel Kinect can have a bigger impact on X1 gaming than Bluray ever did on PS3.



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Michael-5 on 04 December 2013

Yes, most PS3 games can't fit on a double layer DVD....Sony can't cut the price of a PS3 by removing Blu-Ray, they's like removing the disk drive all together!

Kinect isn't required for gaming, so MS not offering a Kinect free model is them forcing their way.



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Goatseye on 04 December 2013
RG3Hunna said:
DVD Drive = scratched discs, less quality picture, less storage meaning multiple discs for big games(i.e gtav) , so if you lose a discs you're SOL.

Blu Ray Drive = scratch resistant discs, HD picture quality, Vast amount of storage so you can carry big games on 1 disc

This was innovation in the game industry that pushed gaming forward for the better.

That's not innovation that's improvement.

Innovation is like gaming on the cloud instead of physical format.

A total different approach of accessibility and interaction. You don't touch the storage, no need to travel to buy, no need for storage space in and outside devices.



gigantor21 on 04 December 2013

It is. But there are several key differences:

- The added cost that comes with the device isn't dragging down sales.
- If it does become a sales drag, MS has the option to sell Kinect-free SKUs at a big savings.
- It will have far more utility than the Blu-ray drive did for the PS3--although I suspect it'll be more in non-gaming stuff. That can still be a potent selling point in the general market, though.

I don't expect it to hurt MS much in the long run, frankly.



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babuks on 04 December 2013

Bluray push was needed as DVD will not be able to hold our data in the future. Bluray is not just about gaming, it about computing in general. On the other hand Kinect is not that much necessary.



Goatseye on 04 December 2013
Michael-5 said:

Yes, most PS3 games can't fit on a double layer DVD....Sony can't cut the price of a PS3 by removing Blu-Ray, they's like removing the disk drive all together!

Kinect isn't required for gaming, so MS not offering a Kinect free model is them forcing their way.

To me that's their vision and the way X1 is meant to function. Not a mere video card or Ram upgrade from 360.

I see it like, me going to Ferrari dealership and ask them to remove the leather interior. It's not necessary for driving but it's what makes Ferrari and the company's vision.