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mushroomboy5 on 03 December 2013

well i was gonna buy a ps4 but if it has games like KNACK in it's lineup it's obviously a kiddie console so I think I'll go for something more hardcore and mature.



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ghettoglamour on 03 December 2013
MohammadBadir said:
ghettoglamour said:

Nintendo should just stop doing what they're bad at (home consoles) and focus on what they're good at (software and handhelds). Imagine SM3DW releasing on PS3, PS4, 360 and XB1. 10 million at least. Now it will struggle to sell 2 or 3 million.

 

Sony should just stop doing what they're bad at (handhelds) and focus on what they're good at (hardware and home consoles). imagine Gravity Rush releasing on 3DS, iPhone, Android. 5 million al least. now it will struggle to sell 1 million.

Edit: how the hell is WiiU being irrelevant deserved?

For my personal taste, there is one difference: The Vita is a great piece of hardware, it just happens that nobody wants it. But if I was Sony, this would be my last handheld. Also, a game like Gravity Rush would be worse on all platforms you mentioned, on the other hand, SM3DW would be equal or better on the platforms I mentioned.

The WiiU is just an outdated console with outdated hardware, network and functionality. It has a gimmicky controller that nobody wants and makes the console too expensive for what it is. 3rd Party publishers and customers saw this even before its launch and neither of them supports the console (chicken and egg here).

Gamers that like Nintendo games like me are waiting for the good Nintendo games and a price cut to come to buy the console, the mainstream gamer doesn't give a crap about it and the casuals see nothing ground-breaking like the Wii-Mote and have enough with their Wii and their mobile/facebook games.

So yeah imo the WiiU is a bad console which very little appeal to most people.



Game of the year 2017 so far:

5. Resident Evil VII
4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
3. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
2. Horizon Zero Dawn
1. Super Mario Odyssey

ghettoglamour on 03 December 2013
bosslug said:
ghettoglamour said:

Nintendo should just stop doing what they're bad at (home consoles) and focus on what they're good at (software and handhelds). Imagine SM3DW releasing on PS3, PS4, 360 and XB1. 10 million at least. Now it will struggle to sell 2 or 3 million.

 

Edit: And of course Mario will outsell Knack by a lot, but this just shows how irrelevant the WiiU is (deserved) and how its games will suffer from it (a pity).


Why would they try and sell 10 million as 3rd party when they can potentially do it on their own platform and make far more money? Look at Galaxy...

The Wii was a one hit wonder, the only succesful console since the SNES



Game of the year 2017 so far:

5. Resident Evil VII
4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
3. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
2. Horizon Zero Dawn
1. Super Mario Odyssey

Conina on 03 December 2013

Coke has 43 kcal / 180 kJ per 100 ml, not 5 times as much.

But my point was: you can get fat from wine too, if you drink too much of it regulary.



Proxy-Pie on 03 December 2013
ghettoglamour said:
MohammadBadir said:
ghettoglamour said:

Nintendo should just stop doing what they're bad at (home consoles) and focus on what they're good at (software and handhelds). Imagine SM3DW releasing on PS3, PS4, 360 and XB1. 10 million at least. Now it will struggle to sell 2 or 3 million.

 

Sony should just stop doing what they're bad at (handhelds) and focus on what they're good at (hardware and home consoles). imagine Gravity Rush releasing on 3DS, iPhone, Android. 5 million al least. now it will struggle to sell 1 million.

Edit: how the hell is WiiU being irrelevant deserved?

For my personal taste, there is one difference: The Vita is a great piece of hardware, it just happens that nobody wants it. But if I was Sony, this would be my last handheld. Also, a game like Gravity Rush would be worse on all platforms you mentioned, on the other hand, SM3DW would be equal or better on the platforms I mentioned.

The WiiU is just an outdated console with outdated hardware, network and functionality. It has a gimmicky controller that nobody wants and makes the console too expensive for what it is. 3rd Party publishers and customers saw this even before its launch and neither of them supports the console (chicken and egg here).

Gamers that like Nintendo games like me are waiting for the good Nintendo games and a price cut to come to buy the console, the mainstream gamer doesn't give a crap about it and the casuals see nothing ground-breaking like the Wii-Mote and have enough with their Wii and their mobile/facebook games.

So yeah imo the WiiU is a bad console which very little appeal to most people.

@bolded, basically removes the need for your entire post :P



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ghettoglamour on 03 December 2013
MohammadBadir said:
ghettoglamour said:
MohammadBadir said:
ghettoglamour said:

Nintendo should just stop doing what they're bad at (home consoles) and focus on what they're good at (software and handhelds). Imagine SM3DW releasing on PS3, PS4, 360 and XB1. 10 million at least. Now it will struggle to sell 2 or 3 million.

 

Sony should just stop doing what they're bad at (handhelds) and focus on what they're good at (hardware and home consoles). imagine Gravity Rush releasing on 3DS, iPhone, Android. 5 million al least. now it will struggle to sell 1 million.

Edit: how the hell is WiiU being irrelevant deserved?

For my personal taste, there is one difference: The Vita is a great piece of hardware, it just happens that nobody wants it. But if I was Sony, this would be my last handheld. Also, a game like Gravity Rush would be worse on all platforms you mentioned, on the other hand, SM3DW would be equal or better on the platforms I mentioned.

The WiiU is just an outdated console with outdated hardware, network and functionality. It has a gimmicky controller that nobody wants and makes the console too expensive for what it is. 3rd Party publishers and customers saw this even before its launch and neither of them supports the console (chicken and egg here).

Gamers that like Nintendo games like me are waiting for the good Nintendo games and a price cut to come to buy the console, the mainstream gamer doesn't give a crap about it and the casuals see nothing ground-breaking like the Wii-Mote and have enough with their Wii and their mobile/facebook games.

So yeah imo the WiiU is a bad console which very little appeal to most people.

@bolded, basically removes the need for your entire post :P

Too bad that sales of any products are based on personal tastes



Game of the year 2017 so far:

5. Resident Evil VII
4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
3. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
2. Horizon Zero Dawn
1. Super Mario Odyssey

ghettoglamour on 03 December 2013
Conina said:
Coke has 43 kcal / 180 kJ per 100 ml, not 5 times as much.

But my point was: you can get fat from wine too, if you drink too much of it regulary.


But what about water?



Game of the year 2017 so far:

5. Resident Evil VII
4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
3. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
2. Horizon Zero Dawn
1. Super Mario Odyssey

Conina on 03 December 2013

I think we get slightly offtopic ;)



Proxy-Pie on 03 December 2013
ghettoglamour said:
MohammadBadir said:

For my personal taste, there is one difference: The Vita is a great piece of hardware, it just happens that nobody wants it. But if I was Sony, this would be my last handheld. Also, a game like Gravity Rush would be worse on all platforms you mentioned, on the other hand, SM3DW would be equal or better on the platforms I mentioned.

The WiiU is just an outdated console with outdated hardware, network and functionality. It has a gimmicky controller that nobody wants and makes the console too expensive for what it is. 3rd Party publishers and customers saw this even before its launch and neither of them supports the console (chicken and egg here).

Gamers that like Nintendo games like me are waiting for the good Nintendo games and a price cut to come to buy the console, the mainstream gamer doesn't give a crap about it and the casuals see nothing ground-breaking like the Wii-Mote and have enough with their Wii and their mobile/facebook games.

So yeah imo the WiiU is a bad console which very little appeal to most people.

@bolded, basically removes the need for your entire post :P

Too bad that sales of any products are based on personal tastes

what?

I'm not talking about sales, you're saying the WiiU is a bad console all the while saying "in my opinion", which removes the need of your post seeing as there's enough doom and gloom already.



Figgycal on 03 December 2013
MohammadBadir said:
ghettoglamour said:
MohammadBadir said:

For my personal taste, there is one difference: The Vita is a great piece of hardware, it just happens that nobody wants it. But if I was Sony, this would be my last handheld. Also, a game like Gravity Rush would be worse on all platforms you mentioned, on the other hand, SM3DW would be equal or better on the platforms I mentioned.

The WiiU is just an outdated console with outdated hardware, network and functionality. It has a gimmicky controller that nobody wants and makes the console too expensive for what it is. 3rd Party publishers and customers saw this even before its launch and neither of them supports the console (chicken and egg here).

Gamers that like Nintendo games like me are waiting for the good Nintendo games and a price cut to come to buy the console, the mainstream gamer doesn't give a crap about it and the casuals see nothing ground-breaking like the Wii-Mote and have enough with their Wii and their mobile/facebook games.

So yeah imo the WiiU is a bad console which very little appeal to most people.

@bolded, basically removes the need for your entire post :P

Too bad that sales of any products are based on personal tastes

what?

I'm not talking about sales, you're saying the WiiU is a bad console all the while saying "in my opinion", which removes the need of your post seeing as there's enough doom and gloom already.


Can you really say the Wii U is a good console when we have the PS4 and Xbox One to compare it to? It has a few good games - a handful- and that's about it. The console itself is far from impressive. It's not personal taste to say that the hardware is outdated and overpriced. And it's not personal preference to say that third parties don't want to support it. It's not  good console. The best thing you can say about it is that it plays Nintendo games.