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dahuman on 02 December 2013
Aerys said:
dahuman said:

lower entry price point is good for a lot of people, and they are the only company that can carry their own consoles with their own games, I honestly haven't seen another console maker able to do that.

It is untrue.

GC/N64/WiiU proved you're wrong, nintendo cant really carry their own consoles with their own games.


The lower price is the only thing, but it should be much lower...

sure they did, they generated huge amounts of profit, it's not just console sales numbers along.



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Puppyroach on 02 December 2013

Going thirdparty is destructive for developers like Nintendo or Sega that have been so intertwined with their own consoles. Splitting their fans among several consoles will only be a disservice towards their fans.

I would, however, prefer if Nintendo and Sega went FIRST-party, and became part of one console developer. Then they can get the most out of their talents and and also not split the fanbase.



forest-spirit on 02 December 2013

As of now I need two systems to enjoy my Nintendo games. How many would I need to buy if Nintendo went third party?



oniyide on 02 December 2013
Hamister said:
Such a transition could perhaps have some short term benefits, but in the longer run it could actually be very harmful to Nintendo. Look at Sega in comparison. As a combined hardware and software company Sega was one of the main driving forces behind the industry, as a software company Sega has a completely different agenda. And to me there is a quality difference between Sega today and Sega of the 1990s. There is no way Sega woould have produced mediocre Sonic-games in the 90's, because they knew that the main purpose of Sonic was to drive hardware sales (they could not afford a bad game).

I believe we would see reduced software quility from Nintendo if they became a third party. Some games would of course be amazing still, but there would still be a difference.


you obviously never played Knuckles Choatix for 32x



Puppyroach on 02 December 2013

I would actually prefer if Sega went firstparty with MS and Nintendo went firstparty with Sony. Then we would see some great competition :).



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XboneWins on 02 December 2013

Personally I think Nintendo would be better off becoming a third party developer for home consoles. Wii was an anomaly, now they are back to the sales which can be expected from Nintendo.

If they would make third party games, they would not have to worry about lackluster HW sales and they would get more potential customers by bringing their games to PS4/Xbox One. Maybe even PS3/360 if they wanted to.



oniyide on 02 December 2013
superhippy420 said:
oniyide said:
Oh and alot of people say low price entry point, but they are putting way too much stock into that. That only works if people WANT the product to begin with. And the WIi U proves that. PS4 ane Xbone are much more expensive. and they both had WAY better launches than Wii U. And it looks like PS4 might pass it at least and that system is retailing for 400 and i dont see the price dropping. Hell i think GC was cheaper than PS2 at one point and look at what happened their.


If we were to go only by what happens at launch then the PS3 should have only sold 12 - 15 million. X1 and PS4 have won the launches but before those 2 consoles the Wii U had the best launch other than the PS2 ever. Let's wait and see what happens once no new games come out for months on end and when all the shooter fans already have their console, and a brand new Mario Kart and Smash Bros are released. If that doesn't move the needle for Nintendo then they have serious problems.

after launch WIi U sales dropped BELOW PS3, 360 AND the GC. Like you yourself said dont put too much stock into launch. Remember PS3 was 600 bucks and it was doing better than WIi U was all year, explain. Now Wii U could pull a PS3 or it could go either GC, im inclined to go more with the latter. Simply because it seems people here keep telling me to wait. All year people have been saying wait for holidays, and now its wait for next year. I will not wait.



dahuman on 02 December 2013
Aerys said:

Because they want to stay in their community nothing more.

Most of Wii U games do nothing that PS4 games cant but PS4 games do many things Wii U games cant.

 

So Wii U games would be better on PS4.

 

 

Nintendo should go 3rd party on home consoles

What like having lower reviewed games than the Wii U? or costing 600 USD+ total for a second screen? Yeah man, PS4 is pretty good with those so far. Knack is totally doing what SM3DW can't do by having a 55 Meta score, I'll tell you that much. At leasr Resogun is decent, the PS4 launch lineup would have been pretty shitty if not for Resogun, and it's not even that graphically intensive lol.



oniyide on 02 December 2013
forest-spirit said:
As of now I need two systems to enjoy my Nintendo games. How many would I need to buy if Nintendo went third party?

Hell of a question, which would benefit gamers IMHO. People put stock in "Ninty makes money on their consoles" which doesnt mean a thing unless you are a stock holder, its not like that bolsters their libraries.



dahuman on 02 December 2013
Puppyroach said:
Going thirdparty is destructive for developers like Nintendo or Sega that have been so intertwined with their own consoles. Splitting their fans among several consoles will only be a disservice towards their fans.

I would, however, prefer if Nintendo and Sega went FIRST-party, and became part of one console developer. Then they can get the most out of their talents and and also not split the fanbase.


The problem is Nintendo have always made better games than SEGA so hellz no. I really really miss old school Phantasy Star though.