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CDiablo on 26 November 2013
Runa216 said:
That's my point, we're having fun and joking now that Xbox messed up, but when Sony messed up, it was doomsayers and ill-wishers and pseudo victory laps.  I've never found Sony fans to be nearly as aggressive as Xbox fans.  

You clearly have not been here, N4G, IGN, GAF or 90% of gaming websites out there. Xbox fans are quite the rarity online, even more scarce than Nintendo fans.



Getting an XBOX One for me is like being in a bad relationship but staying together because we have kids. XBone we have 20000+ achievement points, 2+ years of XBL Gold and 20000+ MS points. I think its best we stay together if only for the MS points.

Nintendo Treehouse is what happens when a publisher is confident and proud of its games and doesn't need to show CGI lies for five minutes.

-Jim Sterling

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prayformojo on 26 November 2013
selnor1983 said:
Cthulhu said:
selnor1983 said:
Im really happy that any report of Xbox One isn't really an odd fault. Or big fault. This as Lafiel said sounds like just a faulty capacitor.

I cant remember a launch that has had so little reports online in comparison to other launches.

Well done Microsoft.

I have my Xbox One on for probably 10 hours a day? ( I have TV through it )

And it never gets hot to the touch. Kinect gets a little warm, but that's it.

I feel confiedant that my new console will last years.

Why you act so defencive everytime? Eventhough this happened in just two consoles (well reported two times) most of the issues on the xbone seems to be hardware based which is serious. Anyways I hope nothing happens to your console

Unh?!

After the RROD fiasco that cost Microsoft billions its really good news they made a real effort on the hardware this time. I guess for an Xbox fan the One is like the best console ever made in terms of hardware. lol.


The 360 didn't come out of the gates with RROD reports. It was a few months in before all those consoles started dying. Mine died about a month in. So, I think we all need to wait at least 3 months before saying it's safe.

As far as MS making good consoles, the original Xbox was a quality build.



Runa216 on 26 November 2013
CDiablo said:
Runa216 said:
That's my point, we're having fun and joking now that Xbox messed up, but when Sony messed up, it was doomsayers and ill-wishers and pseudo victory laps.  I've never found Sony fans to be nearly as aggressive as Xbox fans.  

You clearly have not been here, N4G, IGN, GAF or 90% of gaming websites out there. Xbox fans are quite the rarity online, even more scarce than Nintendo fans.

Then why do I see them and sony fans nagging one another everywhere I go online?  Yeah, Sony fans tend to give Xbox fans a hard time a lot, but it doesn't matter where I go, it's all "Sony sucks" and "Pauperstation" and all sorts of bullshit.  

I'm not saying there aren't intolerably aggressive sony fanboys, but in my not inconsiderate experience, Xbox Fanboys are far, far worse for blowing things out of proportion and being aggressive about it. 



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android

DonFerrari on 26 November 2013

If MS fans had to buy 5 X360 due to RROD or to make a XBOX365 (like Office). Now they can have one per room and save on Central heating



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

CDiablo on 26 November 2013
Runa216 said:
Then why do I see them and sony fans nagging one another everywhere I go online?  Yeah, Sony fans tend to give Xbox fans a hard time a lot, but it doesn't matter where I go, it's all "Sony sucks" and "Pauperstation" and all sorts of bullshit.  

I'm not saying there aren't intolerably aggressive sony fanboys, but in my not inconsiderate experience, Xbox Fanboys are far, far worse for blowing things out of proportion and being aggressive about it. 

I dont know what sites you go to but it would be annoyingly refreshing to see a site where the majority of shit talking fanboys werent Sony. Never heard anyone use Pauperstation(I dont even know what that means other than maybe PS4 is cheaper) so you are probably more versed in gaming sites than I. Truth be told Im not sure there is much bad that can be said about Sony at this point(I guess the Vita is doomed thing) by anyone.



Getting an XBOX One for me is like being in a bad relationship but staying together because we have kids. XBone we have 20000+ achievement points, 2+ years of XBL Gold and 20000+ MS points. I think its best we stay together if only for the MS points.

Nintendo Treehouse is what happens when a publisher is confident and proud of its games and doesn't need to show CGI lies for five minutes.

-Jim Sterling

Around the Network
DonFerrari on 26 November 2013
CDiablo said:
Runa216 said:
Then why do I see them and sony fans nagging one another everywhere I go online?  Yeah, Sony fans tend to give Xbox fans a hard time a lot, but it doesn't matter where I go, it's all "Sony sucks" and "Pauperstation" and all sorts of bullshit.  

I'm not saying there aren't intolerably aggressive sony fanboys, but in my not inconsiderate experience, Xbox Fanboys are far, far worse for blowing things out of proportion and being aggressive about it. 

I dont know what sites you go to but it would be annoyingly refreshing to see a site where the majority of shit talking fanboys werent Sony. Never heard anyone use Pauperstation(I dont even know what that means other than maybe PS4 is cheaper) so you are probably more versed in gaming sites than I. Truth be told Im not sure there is much bad that can be said about Sony at this point(I guess the Vita is doomed thing) by anyone.

You certainly don't go to N4G... there is a lot of freaks defending every dumb move MS done and criticizing the good ones Sony made (not our fault that the last 6 months had a lot of it)... and they use Pauperstation since PS3 (don't know if because of lack of game, because of free PSN or because you became poor after buying it, or because Sony is bleeding)... don't mind the fanboys.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Runa216 on 26 November 2013
DonFerrari said:
CDiablo said:
Runa216 said:
Then why do I see them and sony fans nagging one another everywhere I go online?  Yeah, Sony fans tend to give Xbox fans a hard time a lot, but it doesn't matter where I go, it's all "Sony sucks" and "Pauperstation" and all sorts of bullshit.  

I'm not saying there aren't intolerably aggressive sony fanboys, but in my not inconsiderate experience, Xbox Fanboys are far, far worse for blowing things out of proportion and being aggressive about it. 

I dont know what sites you go to but it would be annoyingly refreshing to see a site where the majority of shit talking fanboys werent Sony. Never heard anyone use Pauperstation(I dont even know what that means other than maybe PS4 is cheaper) so you are probably more versed in gaming sites than I. Truth be told Im not sure there is much bad that can be said about Sony at this point(I guess the Vita is doomed thing) by anyone.

You certainly don't go to N4G... there is a lot of freaks defending every dumb move MS done and criticizing the good ones Sony made (not our fault that the last 6 months had a lot of it)... and they use Pauperstation since PS3 (don't know if because of lack of game, because of free PSN or because you became poor after buying it, or because Sony is bleeding)... don't mind the fanboys.

N4G and on here are the places I see the most.  There certainly seems to be MORE sony fans on those two places, but the diminishing numbers of hardcore Xbox Devotees means that the few remaining have to speak louder and act with a big stick.

And man, seeing some of the unfair bias on this fight is hilarious.  This launch has been a perfect example of the PS/Xbox war over the last decade or so.  Sony releases a console, a few units fuck up (less than 1%, a normal number for modern electronics), and well established Xbox fans are frothing at the mouth, calling it a major flop, The next red ring of death!  IT's sad.  it's pathetic.  IT's so very, very desperate, and a clear attempt to nitpick at issues surrounding an otherwise outstanding launch. Terrible launch exclusives, nobody denies that, but the hardware and software that comes in the package is outstanding.  

Then the Xbox comes out to a sliiiiightly higher failure rate, and instead of Sony fans pointing and laughing at their well-earned schadenfreude, they make silly jokes and in some cases straight up "wish you the best of luck" with your broken console.  

Both extremes happened on both ends of the spectrum, but I saw a lot more hate from the Xbox camp than I did the Sony camp.  And it's sad. 



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android

DonFerrari on 28 November 2013
Runa216 said:
DonFerrari said:
CDiablo said:
Runa216 said:
Then why do I see them and sony fans nagging one another everywhere I go online?  Yeah, Sony fans tend to give Xbox fans a hard time a lot, but it doesn't matter where I go, it's all "Sony sucks" and "Pauperstation" and all sorts of bullshit.  

I'm not saying there aren't intolerably aggressive sony fanboys, but in my not inconsiderate experience, Xbox Fanboys are far, far worse for blowing things out of proportion and being aggressive about it. 

I dont know what sites you go to but it would be annoyingly refreshing to see a site where the majority of shit talking fanboys werent Sony. Never heard anyone use Pauperstation(I dont even know what that means other than maybe PS4 is cheaper) so you are probably more versed in gaming sites than I. Truth be told Im not sure there is much bad that can be said about Sony at this point(I guess the Vita is doomed thing) by anyone.

You certainly don't go to N4G... there is a lot of freaks defending every dumb move MS done and criticizing the good ones Sony made (not our fault that the last 6 months had a lot of it)... and they use Pauperstation since PS3 (don't know if because of lack of game, because of free PSN or because you became poor after buying it, or because Sony is bleeding)... don't mind the fanboys.

N4G and on here are the places I see the most.  There certainly seems to be MORE sony fans on those two places, but the diminishing numbers of hardcore Xbox Devotees means that the few remaining have to speak louder and act with a big stick.

And man, seeing some of the unfair bias on this fight is hilarious.  This launch has been a perfect example of the PS/Xbox war over the last decade or so.  Sony releases a console, a few units fuck up (less than 1%, a normal number for modern electronics), and well established Xbox fans are frothing at the mouth, calling it a major flop, The next red ring of death!  IT's sad.  it's pathetic.  IT's so very, very desperate, and a clear attempt to nitpick at issues surrounding an otherwise outstanding launch. Terrible launch exclusives, nobody denies that, but the hardware and software that comes in the package is outstanding.  

Then the Xbox comes out to a sliiiiightly higher failure rate, and instead of Sony fans pointing and laughing at their well-earned schadenfreude, they make silly jokes and in some cases straight up "wish you the best of luck" with your broken console.  

Both extremes happened on both ends of the spectrum, but I saw a lot more hate from the Xbox camp than I did the Sony camp.  And it's sad. 

Sony supporters have a lot of revenge getting more games and selling afront of Xbox 360... so now Xbone supporters are trying to get revenge for their RROD, which they still don't know won't be more severe on Xbone than on PS4... actually they had more variety of failures than PS4 (just seems that each are less expressive than the PS4 ones)...

What is more strange is that after that 1 or 2 days frenzy, now everything is silent, it seems that besides the DOA consoles the rest is fine, meaning if Amazon didn't screw in the delivery (saw the packages??) you are safe



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

endimion on 28 November 2013

Now I'm not wishing any hardware failure to any parties but if I had to chose... I'd take a failing external psu or BR drive over the RRoD or the B/RLoD any day... Why?? Well the psu can be swapped in 15 min (well once they are available separately if they are not already) I should know my 360 one died a month ago due to electrical surge... I went to the store got a new one for 30 bucks... BR drive can be changed too or fixed... Ms can change provider or now you can even go DD which I will do anyway.... A RRoD is a design issue way harder to fix... So all in all for this Gen I wouldn't be too worried by reports we have on xb one so far they seem pretty irrelevant to me... The ps4 on the other hand is more worrying... Do we know where it comes,from on the failing units???
hopefully both are fine and it's just launch hiccups... And nobody has to deal with a rrod remake fiasco...

now that said MS customer support is highly trained in the matter... Makes almost want you to have a failing one especially if like me you want to go DD this Gen...