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famousringo on 12 November 2013
RenCutypoison said:
What if it could take mobile gaming to another level ?

We can't now before we play.


It has little to do with mobile itself, and more to do with the business model behind it. The freemium model incentivizes creating crappy experiences. It's not that freemium games can't be good, but it's rare, it's difficult, it requires the developer to actually push back against maximizing revenue, and the game would almost always have delivered a better experience if it had been sold as a premium product.

TV is a good example here. Broadcast TV is "free," and it can be good, but no matter how great the content, it can never be as good as watching the same shows with no ads, a working pause button, and on my own schedule rather than one set by the broadcaster.

The good news is that the mobile market seems to be splitting. Freemium is getting the limelight because it has the biggest returns, but premium titles seem to still be growing in number and quality.



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Soonerman on 12 November 2013

I don't mind watching good TV shows with ads. The Walking Dead and Breaking Bad come to mind. But yes, F2P but paying to be able to get anywhere sucks. No different than a MMORPG tho.



outlawauron on 12 November 2013
Soonerman said:
I don't mind watching good TV shows with ads. The Walking Dead and Breaking Bad come to mind. But yes, F2P but paying to be able to get anywhere sucks. No different than a MMORPG tho.

It's entirely different from an MMO. You pay a flat rate to access the game.  With freemium, you play the game but have to pay incrementally for a chance to be half decent at the game.



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RenCutypoison on 12 November 2013
famousringo said:
RenCutypoison said:
What if it could take mobile gaming to another level ?

We can't now before we play.


It has little to do with mobile itself, and more to do with the business model behind it. The freemium model incentivizes creating crappy experiences. It's not that freemium games can't be good, but it's rare, it's difficult, it requires the developer to actually push back against maximizing revenue, and the game would almost always have delivered a better experience if it had been sold as a premium product.

TV is a good example here. Broadcast TV is "free," and it can be good, but no matter how great the content, it can never be as good as watching the same shows with no ads, a working pause button, and on my own schedule rather than one set by the broadcaster.

The good news is that the mobile market seems to be splitting. Freemium is getting the limelight because it has the biggest returns, but premium titles seem to still be growing in number and quality.

The first rules of the freemium (for devs) are :

1) A better game brings more players

2) Player hates money hatting

3) The more players, the more money.

 

The freemium model worked well for a LOT of great games, and I don't see a game with that much great staff not being a great game.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 12 November 2013

Oh god... the mobile transition is happening... End of gaming as we know it



                  

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Fusioncode on 12 November 2013

Boooo Square Enix booooo



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outlawauron on 12 November 2013
RenCutypoison said:
The first rules of the freemium (for devs) are :

1) A better game brings more players

2) Player hates money hatting

3) The more players, the more money.

 

The freemium model worked well for a LOT of great games, and I don't see a game with that much great staff not being a great game.

Which games are you referring to? I play a lot of freemium because I'm a jackass with a smartphone, but I admit they're all pretty terrible.



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pbroy on 12 November 2013
outlawauron said:
RenCutypoison said:
The first rules of the freemium (for devs) are :

1) A better game brings more players

2) Player hates money hatting

3) The more players, the more money.

 

The freemium model worked well for a LOT of great games, and I don't see a game with that much great staff not being a great game.

Which games are you referring to? I play a lot of freemium because I'm a jackass with a smartphone, but I admit they're all pretty terrible.

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ishiki on 12 November 2013
Fusioncode said:
Boooo Square Enix booooo


it's not square-enix

it's cygames, these people chose to work on this on their own free will... :P



ice on 12 November 2013

Maybe it's just me but the trailer looked Tales of-ish

It's on mobile though so I'm not interested regardless of the quality of the game.