This is old news if you are a gamer who goes on the internet forums etc...

To me its not a massive problem if the stores tell people or there is a note in the box... except for those people who have bandwidth issues.. to not be able to play it at all until the patch...gah.

It's a shame that both MS and Sony have gone right up to the wire to get their OS sorted, otherwise MS could have created a CD that could have shipped with the box or they could have sent to the stores that went with the product.

I see no big deal unless you're going to game in a place that's remote and untouched by the likes of the internet. If that's the case get the "hook up" by a friend before bringing it home. A minor inconvenience, but not a deal breaker.

It's terrible, not playing a game because of a patch is bad enough, not being able to even experience the console you paid 500$ for, just because your Internet connection is down just feels like a bad joke.

Difference being, and hear me out on this because it may sound crazy. The difference being you can actually play games on a day 1 PS4 without an update.

Great for it, that still doesn't disprove my point that if you are able to spend $500+ you shouldn't have crappy internet.

No point, I'm just giving the size of the PS4 update. 

If your able to shell out over $500+ for a launch console you should have decent internet.  If not you probably should spend that money on upgrading your conection.

Some people just live in crappy internet areas, money has nothing to do with it. Rich people can live out in the country as well you know, being well off doesnt improve local telephone infrastructure. 

no bro, it's automatically okay and accepted because it's not Nintendo :P

True. I believe this was asked to that Orth (don't remember his name correctly) and he replied the infamous "deal with it".