I don't think he's talking about the day/night transitions. He's talking about the fact that Forza has odd lighting that makes everything way too shiny and contrasted.

If you have a major problem with the lighting in Forza games you can always adjust your picture on your TV I see no major problems with it.  If you want to race with not a lot of light stick to night time races in Horzion or only race on the Top Gear Test Track in FM4.

Looks awesome. Buying used though, can't support day one DLC shenanigans.

No no no, it's not a settings issue. It's simply the way they have done the light effects in the FM series. Even when it's cloudy or the cars are in the shade they are still oddly shiny. Of course you don't see any major problems with it...you don't see any problems with FM5 have 14 tracks either...I'm actually pretty sure FM5 could have 6 cars and 1 track and you wouldn't see a problem with it.

I would have liked more cars and tracks but only having 14 isn't a major deal breaker.  GT5: Prolouge had only 6 tracks and not many people had a major problem with it either or it wouldn't have sold over 4 million copies.  Also if you think the cars in Forza are too shiny crash them while racing problem solved.

They also didn't charge $60 for GT:P. The only reason people bought that is because they were tired of waiting for GT5. 14 tracks is not really enough if they expect people to play it for years. It's especially bad when there is a pretty good chance you will have to pay for any extra tracks that are added. Really? Crash them up?...Good god...

How much of this is actual gameplay?

"ALL IN-GAME FOOTAGE"

Thanks Turn 10.

Well I just thought of another solution to the shiny problem paint all your cars with matte paint which is available in FM3,4 and Horizon (not sure about FM2 haven't played it in a long time) it will make them look very ugly but it will solve most of the shiny problems.  But better yet just play the game in interior, first or hood view mode if its really that big of a problem to some people.  Also its really more then 14 tracks most of the tracks have more then one layout and the Circuit de la Sarthe (Le Mans) has an extra track since the Buggati Circuit is included.  For me the only major losses are Fujimi Kaido and Mugello Autodrome and maybe Suzuka Circuit all the other tracks that where dropped I wasn't a huge fan off.

I agree with what you're saying. This is something that could have been in done in the past, but for some reason we didn't see it at this level. The term "cloud powered opponents" is obviously for marketing purposes.

When I responded to you, I thought you were asking a genuine question. But its clear you were just looking to trash MS and you got a well deserved ban. My mistake and enjoy your ban.

Yet we see people in this thread claiming the game doesn't look that good.

Turn 10 can't win.