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Who really won the the 7th Gen Console War?

Nintendo 138 46.46%
 
Xbox 360 30 10.10%
 
PS3 92 30.98%
 
Make Love Not War 17 5.72%
 
See Poll 17 5.72%
 
Total:294
DamnTastic on 05 November 2013

Until it surpasses the wii. The wii has 'won'.



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prayformojo on 05 November 2013
radishhead said:
Even if the PS3 sold the same amount as the Wii, the Wii would still be the winner due to profits.


Profits are not what defines "winning a generation" in the gaming industry. It's how many units you push. Period.



radishhead on 05 November 2013
prayformojo said:
radishhead said:
Even if the PS3 sold the same amount as the Wii, the Wii would still be the winner due to profits.


Profits are not what defines "winning a generation" in the gaming industry. It's how many units you push. Period.

But we're talking about winning the "console war", which is ultimately about profits 



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J_Allard on 05 November 2013

I got like 4 sentences into the article.

Someone should tell them the PS3 was on pace to outsell the 360 since day one.



Ouroboros24 on 05 November 2013
dharh said:
Why do these threads exist? I was sick and tired of people crowing about the Wii stomping the competition then and am sick about the Nintendomination threads about the 3DS now. I don't want to see it from the SONY or the MS side either, its just childish and dumb.


These kinds of distractions are what invigorates the games industry....and also is ruining it. 



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Nem on 05 November 2013

Well, in terms of HD i agree, but in terms of sales the Wii is still the winner.



BrainCramps on 05 November 2013
DirtyP2002 said:
BrainCramps said:
DirtyP2002 said:
BrainCramps said:
DirtyP2002 said:
So, billions of USD loss and less market share don't count.


Less market share?? One gen does not carry over to the next... Head to head, 14 months less on mmarlet PS3 outsold 360, that's fact. Proof Ps3 lost billions?? Keep in mind, sony is a big company, with many divisions./


I was talking about the Wii. -.-
And check the financial reportsm especially the Playstation division.

Or ask former Sony CEO Stringer:

You have spent three billion dollars on the Playstation 3, disregarding research and development. Can you ever get your money back?

Stringer: Not for as long as I live (laughs).

Spending 3 doesn t mean they lost it all LMAO, they have made quite a bit back...........basic economics.


Okay so it is your word against the one of the former CEO of Sony.


Basic economics:

R&D for the PS3 with Cell / BluRay was rather big and even without these costs included the PS3 lost 3 billion USD in 2008.
In 2009 the Playstation division lost another 600 million. http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/ar/8ido180000023g2o-att/SonyAR09-E.pdf
In 2010 the Playstation division was merged with Vaio division and it became very hard to track each product by itself. Anyway, the division lost 900 million USD http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/ar/8ido18000003dkyy-att/8ido18000003dl0u.pdf
In 2011 the Playstation division posted a profit for the very first time. Playstation 2, PSP, PS3 and Vaio made a combined profit of 450 million USD
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/ar/report2011/SonyAR11-E.pdf
In 2012 Sony mixed the new division (Playstation + Vaio) with the TV business and it gets impossible to track. However this division reported a 2.8 billion USD loss http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/ar/2012/common/docs/EAR.pdf
In 2013 the Playstation division is back and called "game" it reported a 29 million USD Profit.

 

Feel free to show me when and where the Playstation 3 made those billions of USD back. Can't wait for this one.

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/06/29/sony-finally-making-profit-ps3-hardware#.Unlx3-JaQ2Y

 

?? Your post is SONY as a company...not ps3........... Again, sony is a massive comglomerate, most of their losses are their other divisiomns. Nice try.

 

Sony started making money on PS3 in 2010.



fps_d0minat0r on 05 November 2013
RazorDragon said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

if it wasnt for the head start xbox got, ps3 would have always been ahead....at a higher price point.
wii couldnt even last the whole generation before nintendo took it out its misery and discontinued it so i dont see how thats anywhere near being a winner. they cant take all the sales during their good times and then call the end of the generation when they slump, thats what losers do.

 

in terms of games I think it goes 1) Sony 2)nintendo 3)MS

MS looked like they had so many exclusives and then 1 by 1 they went to ps3. wouldnt be surprised of XBone ends up the same.


Wii didn't last the whole generation because Nintendo and thirds dropped support on it after the best year it had on the market(2010). And the funny thing is that when almost no new game was being released on it(2011 was when the support was almost entirely dropped), it still managed to outsell both the PS3 and 360. How's that being a loser i'm not sure. PS2 survived so long because in 2007 and 2008 it still had great third-party support, drop support and sales will go along with it.

herd that a million time but still, whatever the excuse, it still flopped before the end of the generation came.

im sure you dont expect the wii to run games at the same level as the ps360 and im sure you dont expect it to be running games like GTA, red dead or battlefield at all. I know graphics are not everything but there comes a time where you have to look at the hardware and see what its maximum capability is. afterall thats why they released the wii U right?....which is still way underpowered compared to ps4/xb1



dharh on 05 November 2013
Ouroboros24 said:
dharh said:
Why do these threads exist? I was sick and tired of people crowing about the Wii stomping the competition then and am sick about the Nintendomination threads about the 3DS now. I don't want to see it from the SONY or the MS side either, its just childish and dumb.


These kinds of distractions are what invigorates the games industry....and also is ruining it. 


It invigorates me to hate my fellow gamers. And yes, its ruining the industry and the gaming community. We hardly ever get good thoughtful discussions going because people are too wrapped up in their own world of "my console won, your console sucks dong". 



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Euphoria14 on 05 November 2013

I don't know how anyone can determine if anyone actually "won", but you can make cases for each.


The Wii? Sold amazing up until 2010 or so, then it has been a non-factor and carried no momentum into their next launch. Even began discontinuing production while the other (2) consoles are still going. Due to those amazing 3-4 years it currently remains the leader in overall sales. Lasted ~7 years.

The PS3? It started off terrible, lost billions and took forever to catch up. By the time it's follow up console launched it was still selling 100k+ per week and carrying strong momentum into the launch of it's follow up console. Lasted 7 years and still going strong.

The XBox360? Started off well, then ran into very bad hardware issues like the RRoD, thus losing billions of dollars. By the time it's follow up console launched it was still ~100k per week and carrying strong momentum into the launch of it's follow up console. Lasted 8 years and still going strong.




In my opinion, in terms of games and staying power, I would easily give the nod to either the PS3 or the 360. This opinion becomes stronger the further out these (2) consoles go.



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