no sizes. this is a penis size competition after all.

Big problem is on videos its very difficult to see because most are not showing it uncompressed/as it should be. The big thing you will notice is AA, which will definately be a big issue on 3rd party games for XBox1 to begin with over PS4. Play it on a big TV and that's where the problems start to exist. 

But the gap between 720/1080p and the consoles running at the same FPS... is definately a very big gap. If you don't care for that, then no worries, but other might be bothered that the gap is apparently so big and the faster machine is cheaper. That is quite shocking from a gamers point of view (I'm talking about the normal early adopters).

In fact if the rumours are true about COD and how PS4 ran at above that automatically before putting higher res stuff in, then it's no surprise they didnt even bother to optimise it, while they sound like they worked their butts off to get the Xbox to run at 60FPS on 720... perhaps thinking of it that way shows the issues MS will have in terms of 3rd party. It will get better, but so will the unoptimised PS4 versions.

I don't expect to see much difference in early 3rd party games except for resolution and slight FPS changes, because for example Assassins Creed, being made on 6 platforms at once. There is no real time to do major improvements to your game code to make it shine. It will be FPS/Higher Res. It will be 1st party games that will shine, unfortunately people will ignore those games because they are not on their platform.

As Cerny said, give it two years, once current gen is dead, and games are working on less platforms *and* optimisations are made to the machines, then bigger differences will become all too apparent i feel... especially as PC games will have also moved on and the PS4 will be using many of those features, while the XBoxOne may need to be paired back a bit.

The persecution complexes around here lately are killing me

I agree on all 3 points.

Look at the launch PS3 and 360 games, they look like crap.

No, Eyebrow sizes.

Yeah I hate saying this but the xbone1 is kinda my punching bag.
ps3 owners took 7 years of bs from 360 owners. Now it's time for pay backs lol
But I don't really put down the xbone here I let others do it lol

All of your bullet points apply to PS4 too. PS4 launch games aren't reaching full potential. PS4 devs wont have unlocked all the power of the PS4. Launch games for PS4 are 1080P already.

Mods are biased: confirmed! This thread is allowed to stay open while the far more off topic and vulger thread for Sony gets locked. Looks like PlayStation really is the true punching bag.

LMFAO 

Sony got it last time. MS's turn this time around. Every launch has had a console being bashed.