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arcane_chaos said:
I guess they were building on the titles for XB1's launch and launch window/within year...MS is promising 15 exclusives games with the first year of the XB1's launch....maybe it came at the sacrifice of their current gen platform

though Beyond: Two Souls sucked? BLASPHEMY!!!!

So they have been doing this since 2010??? Look at the difference in releases of PS3 and Xbox360



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DarthVolod said:
reggin_bolas said:

I'm talking about the 360, I'm so pissed and I feel neglected by MS. Look at what the PS3 has had this year: Beyond (even though it sucked), Last of Us, Ni No Kuni, Tales of Xilia, Dragon's Crown, Puppeteer  etc, etc.

Where are the exclusives on the 360? GoW Judgment doesn't really count; it was pretty mediocre. Besides Halo 4, there hasn't been a solid exclusive for the 360 in years. The last memorable one was Alan Wake and that was many years ago.

Does anyone else feel really robbed? Why did MS just give up? They didn't even bother keeping some exclusives truly exclusive like Bioshock, Mass Effect, real system sellers. Instead they wasted all their money on timed DLC for shooters and sports games. Truly amazing, and the sole reason I'm getting a PS4 and not an XB1

 


Keep in mind that 360 has been on the market a full year longer than PS3 so we can't make as direct a comparison until we see the PS3 lineup for this time next year ...

360 had Gears, low budget titles like Dark and Deadfall (coming soon I think?), and some XBLA games.

PS3 had God of War and Last of Us as the big titles (Beyond was a flop like you said), some JRPG games (if that is your thing it is not mine), and some low budget titles that were mostly overlooked (Puppeteer and Dragon's Crown).

Not that wide of a gulf really. This was the year of 3rd party with GTA V leading the pack going forward into holidays now.

For next year 360 will have Fable Anniversary and Titanfall so far ... two pretty big titles so that is not bad for a console as old as the 360. Also, 360 added games with gold for this year to make it somewhat on par with PS Plus ... again, not bad for a console on its way out the door.

It doesn't matter that it is one year older, it matters that you keep supporting for as long as the system is alive... and if we use this excuse, what is the excuse for having less exclusives in total (even counting shovelware)?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

what is the excuse for having less exclusives in total (even counting shovelware)?


Less first party studios and horrible sales in Japan.



Wright said:
DonFerrari said:

what is the excuse for having less exclusives in total (even counting shovelware)?


Less first party studios and horrible sales in Japan.

Why not use less moneyhatting after 3 or 4 years??? If we look it the right way we could say that when Multi-plats got "equivalent" MS dropped the ball and stopped releasing 1st parties and even buying exclusives, and soon after gone total kinect.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Wright said:
DonFerrari said:

what is the excuse for having less exclusives in total (even counting shovelware)?


Less first party studios and horrible sales in Japan.

Why not use less moneyhatting after 3 or 4 years??? If we look it the right way we could say that when Multi-plats got "equivalent" MS dropped the ball and stopped releasing 1st parties and even buying exclusives, and soon after gone total kinect.


I don't understand you.

MS hasn't stopped releasing first party games, except in 2013. 2014 will also have a first party release. Microsoft bought exclusives but most of them ended up on Playstation slightly changed. Ninja Gaiden 2, for example. It was Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 on Ps3.

Horrible sales in Japan crippled whatever exclusives they could get out of there. Because most exclusive games Ps3 gets from Japan are from second and third parties, that merely put them on their console because it will sell more on it, as simple as that.



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Wright said:
DonFerrari said:
Wright said:
DonFerrari said:

what is the excuse for having less exclusives in total (even counting shovelware)?


Less first party studios and horrible sales in Japan.

Why not use less moneyhatting after 3 or 4 years??? If we look it the right way we could say that when Multi-plats got "equivalent" MS dropped the ball and stopped releasing 1st parties and even buying exclusives, and soon after gone total kinect.


I don't understand you.

MS hasn't stopped releasing first party games, except in 2013. 2014 will also have a first party release. Microsoft bought exclusives but most of them ended up on Playstation slightly changed. Ninja Gaiden 2, for example. It was Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 on Ps3.

Horrible sales in Japan crippled whatever exclusives they could get out of there. Because most exclusive games Ps3 gets from Japan are from second and third parties, that merely put them on their console because it will sell more on it, as simple as that.

You may say it stoped just in 2013, but there is no denying that from 2010~2011 to today they have a lot less exclusives games than they had at the beggining of the gen... almost like they tough they were good enough and didn't need to give an extra effort... I'm biased against them, starting when they prematurely killed Xbox original, them stealthly removed real support from the Xbox360... from where I see I don't doubt they will have a nice launch and first year of games (for the people that like their kind of game anyway), and I'm not even discussing inferior ports or if the exclusives are less impressive graphically (I'm sure PS will be a little or a lot better on this field)... but when a company do the same 2 times in a row, I suspect they may do it again (lot of 1st parties studios or not).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
arcane_chaos said:
I guess they were building on the titles for XB1's launch and launch window/within year...MS is promising 15 exclusives games with the first year of the XB1's launch....maybe it came at the sacrifice of their current gen platform

though Beyond: Two Souls sucked? BLASPHEMY!!!!

So they have been doing this since 2010??? Look at the difference in releases of PS3 and Xbox360

true...but MS is not Sony, both have their ways in how they support their console; and now future console. yes the 360 has been somehwat barren compared to what the PS3 has been doing in it's late years but it doesn't mean MS has nothing to show for it....(well hopefully)



DonFerrari said:

You may say it stoped just in 2013, but there is no denying that from 2010~2011 to today they have a lot less exclusives games than they had at the beggining of the gen... almost like they tough they were good enough and didn't need to give an extra effort... I'm biased against them, starting when they prematurely killed Xbox original, them stealthly removed real support from the Xbox360... from where I see I don't doubt they will have a nice launch and first year of games (for the people that like their kind of game anyway), and I'm not even discussing inferior ports or if the exclusives are less impressive graphically (I'm sure PS will be a little or a lot better on this field)... but when a company do the same 2 times in a row, I suspect they may do it again (lot of 1st parties studios or not).


They have supported the 360 far more than what they did with the original xbox, on which they truly cut total support admist the new console and left it to die. It's easy to compare it to a veteran like Sony, but Microsoft is still the newbie between the three and they're a company that purchases money over what they control: hardware, software and things like that. Their politices are different. At least I can say I prefer the 360 support than the Wii support these last years. They haven't stealth removed support from the console. Some of the launch window games for the Xbox One will also be present on the 360, which is support no matter how you want to look at it. (But I would agree they're not exclusives).

They went from 7 first party studios (I think) with the 360 to 18 working on the Xbox One. Trust me that would make a difference. They won't need to resort to third parties that much (like Epic and Gears of War) since they can produce meaty content.

That exclusive support you speaking of its first five years was more from second and third party than from the first party ones, because they didn't have enough studios to keep up the pace by Nintendo and Sony.

 

And since what I like to do is playing games no matter what the platform, I'm happy with it. I've managed to play almost every single exclusive game from every console this generation. I'll be getting a next-gen console by 2015, probably the WiiU or the Xbox One. So I am in no hurry for the next generation.



Wright said:
DonFerrari said:

You may say it stoped just in 2013, but there is no denying that from 2010~2011 to today they have a lot less exclusives games than they had at the beggining of the gen... almost like they tough they were good enough and didn't need to give an extra effort... I'm biased against them, starting when they prematurely killed Xbox original, them stealthly removed real support from the Xbox360... from where I see I don't doubt they will have a nice launch and first year of games (for the people that like their kind of game anyway), and I'm not even discussing inferior ports or if the exclusives are less impressive graphically (I'm sure PS will be a little or a lot better on this field)... but when a company do the same 2 times in a row, I suspect they may do it again (lot of 1st parties studios or not).


They have supported the 360 far more than what they did with the original xbox, on which they truly cut total support admist the new console and left it to die. It's easy to compare it to a veteran like Sony, but Microsoft is still the newbie between the three and they're a company that purchases money over what they control: hardware, software and things like that. Their politices are different. At least I can say I prefer the 360 support than the Wii support these last years. They haven't stealth removed support from the console. Some of the launch window games for the Xbox One will also be present on the 360, which is support no matter how you want to look at it. (But I would agree they're not exclusives).

They went from 7 first party studios (I think) with the 360 to 18 working on the Xbox One. Trust me that would make a difference. They won't need to resort to third parties that much (like Epic and Gears of War) since they can produce meaty content.

That exclusive support you speaking of its first five years was more from second and third party than from the first party ones, because they didn't have enough studios to keep up the pace by Nintendo and Sony.

 

And since what I like to do is playing games no matter what the platform, I'm happy with it. I've managed to play almost every single exclusive game from every console this generation. I'll be getting a next-gen console by 2015, probably the WiiU or the Xbox One. So I am in no hurry for the next generation.

I hope you are right (even tough some of the new studios is unproven ones, but with MS cash and some already talented studios if they do like sony do with the Santa Monica and Naughty Dog giving support to other 1st and even some 3rd they will be good).

And yes, Ninty kill off of older consoles is unmatched (but that is mainly because they have to support alone all their home consoles (sadly))...

I haven't bought any MS console because their 1st parties don't attract me (fps) or I have a preffered game (for me GT tops not only FM but any other game on the planet... yep I am a huge lover of it)... and for RPG I'm a sucker for FF so Lost Ocean and Fable don't have my attention (and most other rpgs don't as well)...

I'll maintain my mind of no support after some years... I'll gladly change that if proven wrong, and if some game interest me I may buy one down the road (to be sincere I loved one demo game that came with my brother X360, that were you basically garden)... but even taking that point and seeing that X360 dropped support THERE IS NO DISCUSSION THAT FOR ANYONE THAT HAVE X360 THEY COULD STILL PLAY FOR 10 MORE YEARS AND KEEP DISCOVERING MARVELOUS GAME ON IT (EXCLUSIVE OR NOT).... any platform with more than 500 games can't be said to have no games).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

I hope you are right (even tough some of the new studios is unproven ones, but with MS cash and some already talented studios if they do like sony do with the Santa Monica and Naughty Dog giving support to other 1st and even some 3rd they will be good).

And yes, Ninty kill off of older consoles is unmatched (but that is mainly because they have to support alone all their home consoles (sadly))...

I haven't bought any MS console because their 1st parties don't attract me (fps) or I have a preffered game (for me GT tops not only FM but any other game on the planet... yep I am a huge lover of it)... and for RPG I'm a sucker for FF so Lost Ocean and Fable don't have my attention (and most other rpgs don't as well)...

I'll maintain my mind of no support after some years... I'll gladly change that if proven wrong, and if some game interest me I may buy one down the road (to be sincere I loved one demo game that came with my brother X360, that were you basically garden)... but even taking that point and seeing that X360 dropped support THERE IS NO DISCUSSION THAT FOR ANYONE THAT HAVE X360 THEY COULD STILL PLAY FOR 10 MORE YEARS AND KEEP DISCOVERING MARVELOUS GAME ON IT (EXCLUSIVE OR NOT).... any platform with more than 500 games can't be said to have no games).


What could be cool is that Microsoft dropped Xbox Live Gold for multiplayer on the 360 since the Xbox One is releasing.

 

That would inject a huge dose of life in that old dog of a console!

 

By the way, since you seem to love driving games, did you try Project Gotham Racing? Best racing game ever for me (and I don't even like racing game).